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I actually think it was probably a pretty big part. They knew Jones leaves a leadership void, and wanted someone they thought could at least somewhat fill it.
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Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
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I nominate "F@ck you Bretsky" .....hahaTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
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Anything less than a Drew montage would be a 16 beating a 1 level upset.Comment
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I have to confess. Not sure I like it. I prefer all of you dooming and glooming because for nearly two decades I have seen what happens when we all get our balloon two full of fresh air. I don’t want the Packers to be the popular pick in 2024. They can say Pack is up and coming but don’t please not the preseason darlings.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostComment
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My fear is one no one will even touch on. Love is the next Carson Wentz. Wentz looked incredible his first 20 starts or so, now he can't land a backup job. Love only looked incredible when the running game gave him favorable downs/distances. A lot of QBs look good in those situations (which is why I hate the way QBs get paid like they are the only guy who matters). Love showed a lot of good. He also showed some pretty bad habits at times. I need to see 17+ games of good Love this year. If I'm GB I don't extend him until I see that.Originally posted by MadtownPacker View PostThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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Was that gloomy enough for you??The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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I feel like you went too far with the Wentz comparison but yeah that’s more like it.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostComment
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Sorry guys but Love put this team on his back long before Aaron Jones returned from injury. He'll get an extension for 50M per year before the season starts. Drink the Kool-aid!I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard CohenComment
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And he made some pretty bad decisions that worked out. I'm not all doom and gloom, but there is a fear in the back of my mind. When Jones disappeared for most of the 2nd half against SF, Love looked pretty ineffective.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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He's far from a finished product - his fundamentals -- specifically his footwork -- needs work, and there are too many times he's still putting too much air under the ball when he should just rip it. There were a number of plays last year that went in GB's favor that were fractions of a second from being disastrous picks.
He's got a promising future, let's see how he handles this offseason. If he's jetting around doing interviews and pimping Old Spice instead of working on his fundamentals, they have a problem. Personally I think he's a pretty well grounded individual (so far) and will be ok.
The other thing I wonder about is how teams will try to defend GB, specifically Love now that there's a season of tape and an offseason to study and adjust for him. Teams will find and attack any weaknesses in his game.
Having Jacobs and a good supporting cast will help mitigate that.
I also think, for both Jacobs and Love's sake, Gute takes some big steps towards solidifying the OL. I'm not fully confident in a Walker-Jenkins-Myers-Rhyan-Tom starting OL with Newman as the top backup. I think Myers and Rhyan are the weakspots and they will need to play better than they did to start last year. Maybe Rhyan makes a jump and improves this offseason, I think Myers is ok but getting more competition at C and G will help raise the floor of the OL. Would absolutely love to see this team have an OL that paired with Jacobs that just runs the ball right down the throat of the other NFCN teams. Play action passing would be super deadly.Comment
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I don't want them to mess with his fundamentals too much. A lot of the same criticisms were made about Favre and Rodgers, and I'd put them both as top five all time, GOATs at the time they played. Yes, Love does seem to be a well-grounded individual, and best of all, he has soaked up the Rodgers mindset of not throwing interceptions. He does have a great supporting cast around him, but you could just about say even this early in his career, same as Rodgers, he makes the rest of the team seem better than it is.
I'm fine with the starting OLine as it is. We could probably use a backup or two. As I have said many times, "just ok" is plenty good enough for the OLine if you have a mobile accurate QB.
Same as in the Rodgers years, same as always, I want the team to be "pass first". Jacobs should be (I hope) as effective or more so than Aaron Jones as a change of pace to the excellent passing game. Whether it was Jones or now with Jacobs, I want them to draft a fairly equal RB for rotation with the starter - Braelon Allen in the 2nd or 3rd round is still my top choice.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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Ya know Run, I've seen Powers-Jackson mocked in the first lately, but I think there is a good shot he is there in the 2nd for us. If Gutes drafted one of the elite OT prospects and Austin Powers in the 2nd I think our OL would be as good as anyone's in the league. Even then we should triple up in the 4/5th rounds for depth as I don't really like Rhyan at all. I'd love to hear the discussion if DeJean and one of the top OTs are both available when we pick.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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Tex, you realize Rodgers completely reworked his throwing motion from college to pros right? Working to improve is never a bad thing.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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I'm skeptical of Rhyan's ability to be a starter, although he went from "keeping the 3rd round bust streak alive" to serviceable backup, so he might have another step in his game. I wouldn't bank on it, and given the JRJ-Rhyan platooning last year I doubt Gute is. I think they should improve the OL overall - the only guys who should be locks as starters are Jenkins and Tom. The rest are young and/or need to be pushed to keep their jobs.Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
Agree. Remember how Love couldn't hit a deep throw the first half of the season? How many times did he underthrow or throw from a jump or unnecessary hitch? He cleans that up, it improves his timing and accuracy. Maybe throwing a lob off your back foot to Wicks will beat the Bears, but it's not going to cut it in the playoffs against SF. A 3% improvement in his accuracy would make a big difference over the course of a season. Also can give your receivers a better chance at gaining more YAC. Why wouldn't you want that? As I've said Love is far from a finished product - he's 24 years old - and has a lot of room for improvement after one year of starting. If he doesn't improve in years 2 & 3 then I'll be concerned, and GB will likely have grossly overpaid for their QB.Tex, you realize Rodgers completely reworked his throwing motion from college to pros right? Working to improve is never a bad thing.Comment
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Its gonna be fun seeing josh jacobs running down the field with a couple db's hanging off him now that tackling has been banned
wonder if GB saw this coming and decided to go with a tank at RB because of itComment
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