The death of the girlfriend thrown in is one of the most macabre things I’ve seen in a scouting report. Is that supposed to mean he’s damaged goods? I’m not sure why that even is included. Tragic as hell, but not really relatable to football.
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2024 2nd Round Pick #45 Overall Edgerrin Cooper
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100%. So fucking bizarre, if not cruel.Originally posted by King Friday View PostThe death of the girlfriend thrown in is one of the most macabre things I’ve seen in a scouting report. Is that supposed to mean he’s damaged goods? I’m not sure why that even is included. Tragic as hell, but not really relatable to football.
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I absolutely love this pick. He’s my favorite of the class by far at this point. He played big boy football in the SEC and was putting up plays all over the place. With his background, he’s going to be a great fit in Green Bay because he’s not a big city kid. He is going to live and breathe football and if him and Quay put it together, we will have our best tandem at LB in a long time.It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!
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That just means he was taking calls, as he does with every single pick. We got a great athlete who lacks great instinct. One false step, or .3 seconds delay in diagnosing a play and he runs a 5.5, but hits people really hard as he is trying to catch up. Oren Burks did that as well. Remember all the articles. He's learning to make his reads. We are teaching him to watch the guards feet. He never quite caught on. I hope I'm wrong. I do think he will be "adequate", but with a top 50 pick I want more than adequate.Originally posted by Fritz View PostWell, if you watch Guter's presser, you'd surely think so. He did say the trade back was in the works "a couple of picks" before the Iggles traded up, so it did not seem - if he is to be believed - that trading back was a fallback position once the Iggles moved up. He said he wanted to move up to get his guys, but he was glad his scouts pushed back on him there, because by being patient he did get his guys, without having to give up anything.
I am coming around to Sharpe and Mad's idea that we all loved DeJean a lot more than Guter ever did.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Except I made one. But I'll be fair and say Cooper is mean as a rattlesnake and we need that. I like his unbridled aggression, its just likely to piss me off at some point. I don't hate the player mind you, I hate picking him in the top 50.Originally posted by George Cumby View PostThere's no comparison Cooper to Burks.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Yes, please. I'll take that, even if he misses a few tackles. Dude plays hard and with fire. So, does the Georgia safety. I think this team needs that.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostExcept I made one. But I'll be fair and say Cooper is mean as a rattlesnake and we need that. I like his unbridled aggression, its just likely to piss me off at some point. I don't hate the player mind you, I hate picking him in the top 50.
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The stuff the scouts tell McGinn are hilarious sometimes, and maddening. Totally contradict each other. Of course beauty is going to be in the eye of the beholder, and the scheme.
I like the pick. He's ultra-athletic and is basically a smaller Quay. He might be a better football player than Quay coming out as well.
The mental midget stuff is a little concerning, and I'd heard about the ATV accident. I'm pretty sure GB dug into that and worked him over about it on the Top 30 visit. If they had concerns they wouldn't have taken him; GB usually stays away from dumb characters.
I wonder if they'll give McKinney the green dot instead. I don't know that Quay should have it; and maybe just letting Quay and Cooper fly to the ball without having to think too much is what you want.
As for Cooper Dejean, PHI did give up a bunch. I'm not convinced Dejean was a perfect scheme fit for Hafley, but I do think he is a good player and versatile enough where he'd succeed. I don't completely buy the "we were going to trade down before the Dejean pick" stuff. They usually work out trade offers before they're on the clock, I'm guessing they decided to execute on the trade after Dejean went. He's a good prospect and would have been a nice addition. PHI did well to get him and Quinyon, but they really paid thru the nose.
It's a close call but I'd rather have Edgerrin Cooper, Bullard, and the two extra picks than Cooper Dejean and whomever was left at LB. He's the best off-ball LB in the draft class (for what that's worth) and they needed ILBs badly.
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The Packers had to have done their homework on this kid's mental makeup. Let Q or someone else make the calls at the line, and as long as Cooper knows what to do when the call is made, he'll be fine. If he can't learn what to do with the calls, then the Packers fucked up drafting him. There were questions about Nick Collins mental abilities, and he was great until the injury. On the other hand, there were questions about Terrance Marshall's intelligence and he sucked.
As for the girlfriend, as long as he wasn't the cause, and he isn't so depressed that he can't function, it isn't a concern.2025 Ratpickers champion.
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I’ve never completely agreed with that whole thing about not liking a player because of where he was chosen in the draft. If Cooper becomes an all pro, what difference does it make if he was drafted at #45 or #65? If he’d slid to the third and the Packers took him, why would that make any of us more excited? It’s really “can this guy be a great player or not?” I get that you don’t want to take kickers and punters in the first round, but if you pick an all pro ten-year starting guard, say, in the first round, as the Seahawks did when they drafted Steve Hutchinson way back when, isn’t that a damn good pick?Originally posted by bobblehead View PostExcept I made one. But I'll be fair and say Cooper is mean as a rattlesnake and we need that. I like his unbridled aggression, its just likely to piss me off at some point. I don't hate the player mind you, I hate picking him in the top 50."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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I don't know. Didn't we draft a kid who's best friend (I think his QB) died and he walked out of camp with depression? Tried to play a year later and never had passion for the game. Cole Madison?? Was that his name? Its relevant.Originally posted by King Friday View PostThe death of the girlfriend thrown in is one of the most macabre things I’ve seen in a scouting report. Is that supposed to mean he’s damaged goods? I’m not sure why that even is included. Tragic as hell, but not really relatable to football.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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per GBPG:
Sounds like he will enjoy Green Bay.Cooper has three French bulldogs and three cane corsos. According to Stacy Dales during coverage of the NFL scouting combine, Cooper walks each dog individually.
"Those are my little homies down there," Cooper said during an interview with the Bryan College Station Eagle. "Hunting, fishing and enjoying the outdoors. That’s where I get to rest my mind."
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