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    2024 3rd Round Pick #88 Overall Marshawn Lloyd



    Overview
    Lloyd's flashes on tape could lead a team to envision a more expansive role for him in its offense, but based on his play, he feels more like a good complementary option with big-play potential. Frankly, some of his South Carolina tape from 2022 felt more exciting than his 2023 USC film, despite the higher yardage-per-carry mark in 2023. While he ran with improved patience and set up blockers more diligently in '23, he ran with a greater sense of urgency the year prior and proved he could create explosive plays without as much help from his offensive line. Lloyd runs with slightly below-average vision but has the juice to play the role of "chunk-play slasher" and dangerous open-field pass catcher. Lloyd is a low-mileage prospect, and the scope of his role will obviously depend on scheme fit.

    Strengths
    Displayed improved tempo and ability to set up blocks in 2023.
    Marries NFL-caliber burst with adequate contact pop to fall forward.
    Twitchy feet and wide base, allowing access to sudden lateral cuts.
    Uses burst and free hand to swat away angle tackles around the corner.
    Possesses natural timing in making upfield cuts on wide-flowing runs.
    Speed and shake to torment open-field tacklers as a pass-catching option.

    Weaknesses
    Will miss opportunities for splashy runs due to average vision.
    Running style was less instinctive and urgent at USC than it was at South Carolina.
    Ball security could be a considerable concern for him in the league.
    Tore his ACL in 2020 and missed time in 2022 and 2023.
    Lacks sand in his pants to protect his quarterback in blitz pickup.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #3
      Pretty interesting pass catcher.

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      • #4
        40 year Packer fan here, picking RB at this point is beyond me.
        No clue what our GM was thinking.

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        • #5
          This guy reminded me a bit of Josh Jacobs. I'm on board.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #6
            I looked at the RAS. This guy is really similar to Jacobs athletically. He's 1 1/2" shorter and has more straight line, but otherwise the measurables are very similar.
            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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            • #7
              A fumbler with supposedly average vision.

              I dunno. I have a friend who would've preferred Jaylen Wright. I also thought Guter would maybe just wait and draft two or three guys later and see if one of them was a diamond in the rough, thus using this third-round pick on another offensive lineman or another safety or something.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                A fumbler with supposedly average vision.

                I dunno. I have a friend who would've preferred Jaylen Wright. I also thought Guter would maybe just wait and draft two or three guys later and see if one of them was a diamond in the rough, thus using this third-round pick on another offensive lineman or another safety or something.
                Well now you say something. If you had told Gute that you have a friend who prefers Jaylen Wright, that could have changed everything. Daniel Jeremiah said he thinks Packers got the best RB in the draft.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #9
                  Oh for sure, Joe. I watched Guter's presser, and it reminded me that this guy knows all these players thoroughly, whereas my information is gleaned from people who are amateurs and don't do it for a living.

                  I was just feeling pessimistic when I was posting this morning, but then I took the time to watch Guter's presser, and realized - once again - that I don't know shit, so there's no reason to get worked up. Doesn't mean that Lloyd will necessarily be great, but it does mean the Packers made an informed decision, as opposed to saying "Hey, let's have Fritzy's buddy pick a running back for us!"
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #10
                    I think this pick was far more about the kid being similar to Jacobs. The Packers like to substitute their backs extensively. The vast difference between Jones and Dillon created difficulty in managing a game plan. If Jones busts off a big run to the five yard line, and needs a breather, we can plug this kid in and keep running the same scheme. He can’t block for shit, but few backs can coming from college. He is very quick for his size. That is always something to like in a back.
                    It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                      A fumbler with supposedly average vision.
                      Said a lot of people about Ahman Green. He turned out alright.
                      It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                        Said a lot of people about Ahman Green. He turned out alright.
                        The fumbler part I remember. I don't remember the part about average vision.

                        Good point above about how the backs now are more interchangeable. It did seem to mess LeFleur up, having to adjust the calls so much because Jones and Dillon were so different.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #13
                          I don’t get the average vision thing on this kid. You can’t put up the numbers he did while running into your lineman’s ass continuously. He has the same issues Dillon had coming out of college, where there was little development of the player as an all around back in college. Doesn’t mean he can’t do it, as Dillon has proven.
                          It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                          • #14
                            I also like that this kid created 0.4 missed tackles on average each carry last year. This kid is not easy to bring down. That is the kind of runner we need, not someone like Dillon who keeps tripping over the paint on the field.
                            It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                            • #15
                              Aaron Jones RAS, for comparison;

                              https://ras.football/2019/12/18/aaron-jones-ras-13119/

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