Another solid game from the QB

[Noodle]

I agree with DN about the accuracy and velocity issues. Dang, we get it, Favre can throw a fastball, but does every friggin pass have to be lasered in there? And the high throws are going either going to get picked or get a receiver who's reaching to make a play killed.

He really looked great at times today, but it just seems like he's throwing everything too dang hard. But you know, on that last drive, I had every belief that he'd drive the field. Didn't work out that way, but I still believe in the guy.

BTW, we should give the D some serious props for stuffing NO with a three and done with 3 minutes left. The D has taken some hits, but they give us a chance to at least tie.

[woodbuck27]

" I counted 7 drops today, maybe more " Deputy Nutz

WOW. That's alot of drops. Deputy Nutz.

Two questions if you would answer please Deputy Nutz:

a.) Does he appear comfortable to you?

b.) This one I havn't read the answer to if anyone did even try to answer it.

On OUR last series, Favre had incomplete's on four consecutive downs.

What went wrong on each of those four downs... if it's still with you Deputy Nutz?

Thank You.

GO PACKERS ! FAITH FOR A WIN IN GAME THREE !!

[jack's smirking revenge]

That INT was the "uh-oh this doesn't look good" moment of the game. It's 1st down inside the 10 yard line. Take the sack, but don't put up some shit pass.

Agreed. That ball NEVER should've been thrown. It was a dumb error by a veteran QB. He's allowed those every now and then.

tyler

I thought someone said in another thread that M3 told the press he was trying to throw the ball away and got hit as he was throwing.

Well, it didn't look like that to me. All of us will probably know more once the tape is reviewed--including M3.

tyler

[woodbuck27]

I agree with DN about the accuracy and velocity issues. Dang, we get it, Favre can throw a fastball, but does every friggin pass have to be lasered in there? And the high throws are going either going to get picked or get a receiver who's reaching to make a play killed.

He really looked great at times today, but it just seems like he's throwing everything too dang hard. But you know, on that last drive, I had every belief that he'd drive the field. Didn't work out that way, but I still believe in the guy.

BTW, we should give the D some serious props for stuffing NO with a three and done with 3 minutes left. The D has taken some hits, but they give us a chance to at least tie.

Most Packer fans were right there with YOU Noodle on that last series. With us having excellent field position to begin that drive (near mid field - OUR 45 Yard line? as I recall).

I was thinking. Will it be a tie, or do we go for it with a 2 point conversion?

Then 1-2-3-4 incomplete pass's??? What happened with those four pass's, Noodle?

[MJZiggy]

I got this one. People didn't catch them.


I will eventually go back and look, but I saw some stupid drops and, of course, NO knew we'd be passing.

[BF4MVP]

Brett played very well today. There was the one INT that wasn't his fault, he was trying to throw it away and got hit..Then there were the last two throws that were way off the mark..

Otherwise he played well.

[MadtownPacker]

BTW, we should give the D some serious props for stuffing NO with a three and done with 3 minutes left. The D has taken some hits, but they give us a chance to at least tie.

I aint giving the D any props not even pretend ones. NO had to run to burn the clock. D knew they would run and stopped them. But what about the damn 34 points???

Other then the INT Favre played excellent and was a straight up monster on some of those throws. I kinda agree about the lasers. It should be required that all the Packers WRs/RBs/TEs have lasik surgery. I wonder how the hell they can see the ball.

[woodbuck27]

Here is more of a "laymans" formula for QB rating:

1. Complete passes divided by pass attempts. Subtract 0.3 and divide by 0.2
2. Passing yards divided by pass attempts. Subtract 3 and divide by 4.
3. Touchdown passes divided by pass attempts and divide by .05.
4. Start with .095 and subtract interceptions divided by pass attempts. Divide that product by .04.

Add the sum of 1-4, multiply by 100 and divide by 6.

Your joking, right?

No, I'm absolutely serious. That's the formula.

Patler:

That is too seriously funny! X 10

[FritzDontBlitz]

BTW, we should give the D some serious props for stuffing NO with a three and done with 3 minutes left. The D has taken some hits, but they give us a chance to at least tie.

I aint giving the D any props not even pretend ones. NO had to run to burn the clock. D knew they would run and stopped them. But what about the damn 34 points???

Other then the INT Favre played excellent and was a straight up monster on some of those throws. I kinda agree about the lasers. It should be required that all the Packers WRs/RBs/TEs have lasik surgery. I wonder how the hell they can see the ball.

actually, javon walker credited his breakout season in green bay to having lasix surgery in the offseason. fergy then went and had the same surgery and seemed to be on his way to a great season too before donovan darius derailed him.

i just saw the highlights on nfln. favre's throws looked damn good. on the lone pick he had three open receivers in the right corner of the end zone and was hit as he threw, but it still took a great effort by the defender to leap over hendo to make the pick. it looked like hendo thought he was all alone on the pass and didn't see the defender coming up from behind.

i wasn't able to see the whole game, but packernews.com's blog mentioned that favre was off on a lot of passes to go along with the drops, yet he still went 31-55?

[prsnfoto]

Wow, if this is the great QB play you had in mind as you were praying for Favre to return this year you should be asking God for a rebate...

Hey troll fuckoff and die moron.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I actually thought Favre played better in the Chicago game than this game--until the 4th quarter throws when the team was down 26-0. He's still one of the better QBs in the game. Mainly, I was disappointed at times in his play this game. The interception hurt. It's not all his fault, but he's to blame as much as anybody. His play overall was solid, but it was spotty. There were times when we could have taken control of the game, and Favre struggled. It's hard to fault him too much when he goes 31 of 55 for 340, 3 TDs and has at least 6 drops though.

[HarveyWallbangers]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cl-askthescout091906&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Have Brett Favre's skills really diminished that much?

Physically, Favre is not the same player that he was in his prime. That much is obvious to even the most casual observer. However, his skill level is still better than many starting NFL quarterbacks.

In his prime, Favre was always a wild-child-type player who routinely threw the ball into coverage. Back then, he had two huge factors going for him. One, former head coach Mike Holmgren was both a calming influence and stern hand. Holmgren was great at accentuating the positives in Favre's skills as well as diminishing his flaws. With better personnel weapons surrounding Favre, Holmgren was also outstanding at clearing coverage in the deep middle and allowing Favre to make the throws against man coverage successfully.

Now, the Packers struggle in both pass protection and in the running game, which leads to them falling behind early, which forces them to hope Favre pulls something out of his hat. In this scenario, even the hottest quarterbacks will fail.

When evaluating a player, you must ask yourself why he is struggling or having success. Asking the "whys" accurately and astutely will ultimately bring you to the answer.

A number of other quarterbacks are playing poorly, but there are other issues that are contributing to that. Changing the quarterback is not always the answer, unless he's beaten down physically or mentally and not processing information accurately.

Making a change at a position without addressing the other problems is just cosmetic. If you had transmission problems on your automobile, would changing the tires help? Or would it simply make one situation better without addressing the more significant issue? Translation: If the Packers decided to play Aaron Rodgers right now, he would encounter the same issues as Favre.

[packrulz]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

Have Brett Favre's skills really diminished that much?

Physically, Favre is not the same player that he was in his prime. That much is obvious to even the most casual observer. However, his skill level is still better than many starting NFL quarterbacks.

In his prime, Favre was always a wild-child-type player who routinely threw the ball into coverage. Back then, he had two huge factors going for him. One, former head coach Mike Holmgren was both a calming influence and stern hand. Holmgren was great at accentuating the positives in Favre's skills as well as diminishing his flaws. With better personnel weapons surrounding Favre, Holmgren was also outstanding at clearing coverage in the deep middle and allowing Favre to make the throws against man coverage successfully.

Now, the Packers struggle in both pass protection and in the running game, which leads to them falling behind early, which forces them to hope Favre pulls something out of his hat. In this scenario, even the hottest quarterbacks will fail.

When evaluating a player, you must ask yourself why he is struggling or having success. Asking the "whys" accurately and astutely will ultimately bring you to the answer.

A number of other quarterbacks are playing poorly, but there are other issues that are contributing to that. Changing the quarterback is not always the answer, unless he's beaten down physically or mentally and not processing information accurately.

Making a change at a position without addressing the other problems is just cosmetic. If you had transmission problems on your automobile, would changing the tires help? Or would it simply make one situation better without addressing the more significant issue? Translation: If the Packers decided to play Aaron Rodgers right now, he would encounter the same issues as Favre.

How true. I thought Favre played good, it was the defense that couldn't shut them down. 6 dropped passes, or more, I'm not sure. Holmgren used to say, "He throws hard, catch the ball." Those were catchable passes yet Favre NEVER rips the players publicly for dropping one. But, I have seen him yell at them.