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I could see it happening next year if Myers is gone and Morgan and Walker look good. But to get Tom to stay past 2025, they would need to pay him more than the going rate for the top Centers.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
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That was always my thought process. If you read my drivel you know I have always said he's a guard, but when the report came out they talked about viewing him as a HoF center so you have to consider it a possibility.Originally posted by smuggler View PostI think Tom to guard is a lot more likely.
Morgan/Jenkins/Myers/Tom/Walker ain't half bad.
Its funny that everyone who thought Jenkins (who played a really good LT pre injury) should shut up and play guard regardless of salary disparity thinks Tom on the other hand will demand they play him where he wants.
I also think if Walker doesn't stay put at LT it will only be because he regresses. He finished last season with a strangle hold on the job, I don't care what "coach speak" is happening right now.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Most likely opening day OL will be
Walker, Jenkins, Myers, Morgan, Tom
That will be for various reasons. 2 years from now it could be the 4 of the same: Walker, Jenkins, Monk, Tom, Morgan
I think Morgan starts interior because while he has great feet, he doesn't always use them perfectly and he is a powerful run blocker who gets to the 2nd level. He also has some work with his hands that needs to improve before he stops NFL edge rushers. Both of those are easily within his ability to get right, but it takes time. I doubt he has ever had a great coach. But he has power and balance and that gets you starting at guard on day 1.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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I think Morgan is a bit of a project. I don’t see much of a chance of him starting at tackle in game 1. While you can see his athleticism on film, there also are a lot of poor tendencies that need to be coached up. Perhaps he starts at guard early, but I’m even doubtful of that. I think the Packers are fine letting him develop and mostly providing depth in year one. I can get behind Wahle’s opinion that Monk is probably more likely to get a start first because he will be playing the position of our weakest (and soon to be departed) interior lineman. Morgan may turn out to be better in time, but his learning curve will be steeper at tackle.It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!
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Mike Wahle agrees with you, KingF, on Morgan.
I read an interesting tidbit on the new safeties - the team appears to think both Bullard and Williams can play either safety spot OR nickel, while they see "Walking Boot" Olidapo as more of a box safety-maybe-free-safety type of guy."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Living here, I have multiple friends who are AZ college fans so I watched several of his games. I have seen him block with power and I have seen him shield guys off in the run game. And I've seen him get to the next level and terrorize LBs more than once. He is a really good run blocker.Originally posted by smuggler View PostWhere have you observed Morgan being a powerful run blocker?The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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I don't think you give him enough credit. Every college player has things they can improve on. Morgan reaches too early against speed rushers and he got away with it in college. Teaching him the right technique and having him take 100 snaps against Gary probably fixes it in one camp. He could start at tackle on day one and not ruin a season, however there is no urgency to do that which is why I think he starts at RG. Its because we have 2 excellent tackles already and there is not need to rush it. Its not because he has the mountainous learning curve. Mims has a much higher learning curve and he went 18? I think it was.Originally posted by King Friday View PostI think Morgan is a bit of a project. I don’t see much of a chance of him starting at tackle in game 1. While you can see his athleticism on film, there also are a lot of poor tendencies that need to be coached up. Perhaps he starts at guard early, but I’m even doubtful of that. I think the Packers are fine letting him develop and mostly providing depth in year one. I can get behind Wahle’s opinion that Monk is probably more likely to get a start first because he will be playing the position of our weakest (and soon to be departed) interior lineman. Morgan may turn out to be better in time, but his learning curve will be steeper at tackle.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Exactly. Clifton, Tauscher and Bulaga all began their rookie seasons as backups, but were pushed into starting tackle roles only a few games in. Bakhtiari probably would have too, but for Bulaga's season-ending injury in training camp. Maybe they weren't completely ready, but they were certainly good enough to play with.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostI don't think you give him enough credit. Every college player has things they can improve on. Morgan reaches too early against speed rushers and he got away with it in college. Teaching him the right technique and having him take 100 snaps against Gary probably fixes it in one camp. He could start at tackle on day one and not ruin a season, however there is no urgency to do that which is why I think he starts at RG. Its because we have 2 excellent tackles already and there is not need to rush it. Its not because he has the mountainous learning curve. Mims has a much higher learning curve and he went 18? I think it was.
Hopefully, Morgan is of the same ilk if he is needed.
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Not sure about that on the O line. Runyan is gone and C needs to be improved. Any rookie OL that shines in camp has a pretty good shot in my mind.Originally posted by sharpe1027 View PostIt will be hard to break into the starting lineup as a rookie absent injury, and that's a good thing.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
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