Grading the Packer's Draft

[smuggler]

Good stuff, Nutz. I thought your take on Hooch was spot on.

Fritz, I was thinking maybe Bisaccia being an assistant HC might have led to such an emphasis on ST in this draft, but I also think the KO format revamp has something to do with it

[Fritz]

Good stuff, Nutz. I thought your take on Hooch was spot on.

Fritz, I was thinking maybe Bisaccia being an assistant HC might have led to such an emphasis on ST in this draft, but I also think the KO format revamp has something to do with it

That's a good point. It does make sense.

And since so many of us - myself included - cried and cried about how special teams keeps costing this team, maybe this draft will look a whole lot better if special teams has a great year because of all these rookie safeties and linebackers.

[George Cumby]

Jim and Pat on 'Movin' the Chains' say the Pack had a good draft and the team got better over the weekend.

Their collective take was Morgan, Cooper and Bullard can all be pencilled in as starters.

They were very high on Morgan saying he's strong AF and likes to bully people; he's got a killer instinct.

Lloyd will get work.

Monk was an interesting prospect, but developmental.

They also like the QB.

These two aren't infallible; to their credit, they own their mistakes, but I find them to be the most dependable media source out there.

FWIW.

[Bretsky]

Would agree with all of this except the Hopper grade might be too high for round 3. Overall I think Gute did a great job

[Deputy Nutz]

Would agree with all of this except the Hopper grade might be too high for round 3. Overall I think Gute did a great job

I don't love the kid. He is a boom or bust, but I think he actually knows the game unlike a Torrance Marshall type. If he wants to stick in Green Bay he will have to finish tackles, be a demon on special teams. It's a C+, I think the Player and the draft spot is a C but gets the bump because it was a position of need that Gute finally addressed.

[Fosco33]

Have we regraded the 2021 draft yet?


Green Bay Packers 2021 NFL Draft Picks:

Round 1: No. 29 - Eric Stokes, CB, Georgia
Round 2: No. 62 - Josh Myers, C, Ohio State
Round 3: No. 85 - Amari Rodgers, WR, Clemson
Round 4: No. 142 (Compensatory) - Royce Newman, OG, Ole Miss
Round 5: No. 173 - Tedarrell Slaton, DT, Florida
Round 5: No. 178 (Compensatory) - Shemar Jean-Charles, CB, Appalachian State
Round 6: No. 214 - Cole Van Lanen, OT, Wisconsin
Round 6: No. 220 (Compensatory) - Isaiah McDuffie, LB, Boston College
Round 7: No. 256 - Kylin Hill, RB, Mississippi State

[Fritz]

Have we regraded the 2021 draft yet?


Green Bay Packers 2021 NFL Draft Picks:

Round 1: No. 29 - Eric Stokes, CB, Georgia
Round 2: No. 62 - Josh Myers, C, Ohio State
Round 3: No. 85 - Amari Rodgers, WR, Clemson
Round 4: No. 142 (Compensatory) - Royce Newman, OG, Ole Miss
Round 5: No. 173 - Tedarrell Slaton, DT, Florida
Round 5: No. 178 (Compensatory) - Shemar Jean-Charles, CB, Appalachian State
Round 6: No. 214 - Cole Van Lanen, OT, Wisconsin
Round 6: No. 220 (Compensatory) - Isaiah McDuffie, LB, Boston College
Round 7: No. 256 - Kylin Hill, RB, Mississippi State

Holy cow. Unless Stokes has a miraculous comeback season - emphasis on the miraculous - then the above grade is appropriate. Myers has been okay - which is like saying AJ Dillon, also a second-round pick, is okay. You used two second-round picks in two different draft at positions in which you'd expect - given the nature of those positions, which don't get drafted terribly early generally - that they'd be great. But no. They are okay. Myers will, I think, be allowed to walk at the end of this season.

Slaton and McDuffie are decent players. But that's it. One oft-injured and after-season-one ineffective corner. One okay center. One backup guard. One rotational defensive tackle. One backup/okay linebacker.


Not a "Geez, he's really darn good" among them. Four guys no longer with the team at all.

Pretty stinky.

[Scott Campbell]

Where's the Fire Gute! thread?

[bobblehead]

Fritz, you are a harsh grader. Ignore injuries. Stokes, Myers, slaton and McDuffie can olay at various levels. We Recouped the van lanen pick. Hill.was a good talent, but a head case that didn't pan out.

[bobblehead]

As for this draft, things I like. We drafted football players. High character guys. I like Morgan and cooper even if I think we took him a tad early. Most of our picks have a lot of snaps under the belt so they are ready to play and easy to project. Another nice day 3.

Things I hated. We should have moved up to get DeJean. He is bigger and faster than Bullard. We could have used 90 with some late capital to land both coopers. Also, when we doubled up at LB Wilson was there. He is a.much better prospect. Ok, he's older. You will probably max out at 7 years with him. Big deal. Show me hopper (who I don't hate) at thee 7 year mark. My best guess is we won't want him starting.

We took a RB in 3rd who I think they view as a 3rd down back. The NFL is littered with guys like that. I hate that we really appeared to draft for need way too often.

Draft should have been more like.Morgan, Cooper x2, wilson, and still most of the other guys we got. Maybe we lose the RB pick in a trade back and have to take a different RB in the 5th instead.

Gutes has earned the benefit of the doubt, but I feel like opportunities were lost. I don't hate the guys we got, just feel we could have done better.

[Deputy Nutz]

Have we regraded the 2021 draft yet?


Green Bay Packers 2021 NFL Draft Picks:

Round 1: No. 29 - Eric Stokes, CB, Georgia
Round 2: No. 62 - Josh Myers, C, Ohio State
Round 3: No. 85 - Amari Rodgers, WR, Clemson
Round 4: No. 142 (Compensatory) - Royce Newman, OG, Ole Miss
Round 5: No. 173 - Tedarrell Slaton, DT, Florida
Round 5: No. 178 (Compensatory) - Shemar Jean-Charles, CB, Appalachian State
Round 6: No. 214 - Cole Van Lanen, OT, Wisconsin
Round 6: No. 220 (Compensatory) - Isaiah McDuffie, LB, Boston College
Round 7: No. 256 - Kylin Hill, RB, Mississippi State

No Pro Bowlers, but Contributors. I can't give an F because guys from that draft are still participating on this team C-

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I saw nothing from the USC tape to say Lloyd has vision. But as I said somewhere else I can't fault the guy for running through wide open holes that happened to be exactly where they were meant to be.

One other point, I keep seeing people refer to Dillon as a RB. I promise he isn't at this point. They brought him back to be DeGuara. He will be our Juzuzyk or however the fuck he spells it. I think Wilson is RB3 at this point and we will see Dillon have about 35 carries and 35 catches this year.

Go get your eyes checked, pick up new lens, and then watch again. Lloyd is good is good at finding daylight in black holes.

[bobblehead]

Who did we get with the 7th for Van Lanen...was it Valentine? If so, it ups the grade.

[Jaire]

Would agree with all of this except the Hopper grade might be too high for round 3. Overall I think Gute did a great job

This was a weak draft class; fell off round three. So, everything they managed to pick up was a bonus after their first four picks; several teams mailed it in early.

I thought they picked up a lot of great players day three.

[smuggler]

2021 wouldn't be nearly as bad if Stokes hadn't fucked up his leg. Granted, missing on Newman and getting only meh, but starter, play from Myers, stings. McDuffie was probably the best pick, which is kinda sad.

Kylin Hill looked decent before he ruined his knee, also.