Love Signs Extension

[MadtownPacker]

Just say it Patler. He took the damn money and now he has to win a championship within that timeframe. Anything less is a failure to deliver IMO. With great money comes great responsibility so as far as I’m concerned the honeymoon is over.

[sharpe1027]

I guess there's only one thing left to do, win the whole damn thing.

[Patler]

Just say it Patler. He took the damn money and now he has to win a championship within that timeframe. Anything less is a failure to deliver IMO. With great money comes great responsibility so as far as I’m concerned the honeymoon is over.

Nah, he doesn't have to win a championship; he just has to play well enough to win one, keep the Packers consistently among those favored to win championships, and not be the main reason they don't win one. If he does that, the Packers will continue to pay him consistent with the top QB contracts.

We've seen championship opportunities lost in the past by play of the defense and special teams and coaching decisions. Others were lost by unforeseeable, unfortunate circumstances, key injuries, even front office actions or inactions. At times, Favre and Rodgers came up short in key situations after having won SBs early in their careers. They continued to get paid because with them the chance was always there.

[texaspackerbacker]

That list of eight high paid QBs above, I agree completely with what somebody said, I'd take Love over any of them. Interesting that Mahomes wasn't on the list. He's the only one I'd even consider on a par with Love.

For better or worse, it's "3 years then re-negotiate". I think this was a result of Love sort of betting on himself - that in three years, he will be generally considered so good that he will make even more (not to mention that the cap and the market in general will be significantly higher then).

I'm glad it's over and that it came down the way it did. I thoroughly expect three GREAT years with Love and the rest of the team. Super Bowls? Championships? Yeah, whatever. That is meh to me except on the day of each playoff game we win. Only then it's a big deal. Winning virtually every game, going something like 16-1 or 15-2 is what is big to me.

[call_me_ishmael]

Even though you will run away from the question, who the hell else would they get to QB the team?

Nobody. Love's the guy and gonna be a good one. It is just odd how everyone hated the ARod extension and then this guy signs an even bigger one and it's all roses.

[Joemailman]

Nobody. Love's the guy and gonna be a good one. It is just odd how everyone hated the ARod extension and then this guy signs an even bigger one and it's all roses.

Love is 13 years younger than Rodgers was when signing his extension. That's a lot of it. People were concerned that the Rodgers extension was given to a guy likely to decline. They may have been right. Since signing the extension Rodgers has had 1 mediocre season and 1 season that lasted 4 plays.

[sharpe1027]

Love is 13 years younger than Rodgers was when signing his extension. That's a lot of it. People were concerned that the Rodgers extension was given to a guy likely to decline. They may have been right. Since signing the extension Rodgers has had 1 mediocre season and 1 season that lasted 4 plays.

This. People weren't generally upset about the previous extension for Rodgers. The last one, however, was a bigger risk.

[NewsBruin]

Love is 13 years younger than Rodgers was when signing his extension. That's a lot of it. People were concerned that the Rodgers extension was given to a guy likely to decline. They may have been right. Since signing the extension Rodgers has had 1 mediocre season and 1 season that lasted 4 plays.

My gripe was that it came off to me like "money to assuage hurt feelings (because we don't trust the backup yet.)."

I don't have a problem with players having hurt feelings about being cut or replaced or unappreciated; I'm old enough that I've seen this movie plenty of times before, while they're living it for the first time around. I just don't like dipping into the pot to convince someone they're wanted when that pot now has less money for other players.

A larger paycheck wasn't going to fix what hurt Aaron, but it was going to have us top out at Sammy Watkins for FA pickups.

[texaspackerbacker]

Nobody. Love's the guy and gonna be a good one. It is just odd how everyone hated the ARod extension and then this guy signs an even bigger one and it's all roses.

You like to throw around the word, everybody hahahaha. I and pretty much anybody else who wasn't a dumbass were thrilled with the Rodgers extension, same as people should be now with Love.

[run pMc]

You spend $7,000,000 on your whole WR room. Trade ARod last year and cut Bacteria.

Yep. If they can keep Love's contract from consuming more than 15% of the cap in any year they will probably be ok... assuming he plays up to the contract. You absolutely need an above average QB to win (or be a strong contend) for a SB, and you have to pay to get and keep one.
It's a lot of money and there's certainly risk, but I think they've seen enough internally to know he's the guy.
Clark's extension actually saved them $1M this year, and Jacobs basically got the same contract Aaron Jones had. McKinney was an unexpected signing, but they had cap room for him and Love by releasing Bakhtiari, Jones, Campbell, and clearing the space from Rodgers trade. They weren't in cap hell this year; that was last year when they had JAGs starting at safety and rookies at WR/TE. They had cap space because they were almost done unwinding the dead cap from the all-in years.

A few other thoughts:
- after 2025, things get real interesting for this team and the cap. Watson, Doubs, Tom are FA; after 2026 it's Reed, Wicks, Musgrave, Kraft, Valentine, etc. There's no way they can keep all those players.
- Gute has mentioned the cap and how Covid affected it a few times in recent pressers. Perhaps he's like those who believe the NFL Sunday Ticket mess could cause a similar dip for a year or more; I don't think we can assume the cap will continue to grow without interruption indefinitely.

The void year money on Love's contract doesn't thrill me, and I'm not convinced he should be the highest paid player, but in a few years this probably looks like a good contract and they will renegotiate it after 2026 (most likely after 2027).

[MadtownPacker]

Nah, he doesn't have to win a championship; he just has to play well enough to win one, keep the Packers consistently among those favored to win championships, and not be the main reason they don't win one. If he does that, the Packers will continue to pay him consistent with the top QB contracts.

We've seen championship opportunities lost in the past by play of the defense and special teams and coaching decisions. Others were lost by unforeseeable, unfortunate circumstances, key injuries, even front office actions or inactions. At times, Favre and Rodgers came up short in key situations after having won SBs early in their careers. They continued to get paid because with them the chance was always there.

The best way to defeat a wizard is to turn his own magic against him so here goes….

As you mentioned, they continued to get contracts after winning a SB by their 5th year. Had they not won one I have to believe they don’t get the same offers to chase another one. That’s what I’m saying with Love. He has to at least get to one in 5 years or most will turn on him.

[MadtownPacker]

Nobody. Love's the guy and gonna be a good one. It is just odd how everyone hated the ARod extension and then this guy signs an even bigger one and it's all roses.

Dude that contract was Rodgers on his way downhill. Love is rising up the mountain so how can you even compare. One contract was for what the QB had already done. This contract is about what the QB is gonna do. You’re supposed to be a stock guy and you can’t understand that investment? Probably just making all that shit up you studio gangsta.

[MadScientist]

Dude that contract was Rodgers on his way downhill. Love is rising up the mountain so how can you even compare. One contract was for what the QB had already done. This contract is about what the QB is gonna do. You’re supposed to be a stock guy and you can’t understand that investment? Probably just making all that shit up you studio gangsta.

It's not the cost, it's the value. We think Love will be worth the contract, despite the small sample size. That's the other thing with the Rodgers contract, if he had left a year earlier, we'd be more certain of Love's value, although the lack of receivers in '22 might have limited Love's development.

[texaspackerbacker]

The best way to defeat a wizard is to turn his own magic against him so here goes….

As you mentioned, they continued to get contracts after winning a SB by their 5th year. Had they not won one I have to believe they don’t get the same offers to chase another one. That’s what I’m saying with Love. He has to at least get to one in 5 years or most will turn on him.

How about if they win 16 or so each regular season but somehow blow it in the playoffs. That to me would be damn good, probably better than one super bowl and three or four mediocre seasons.

It shouldn't be necessary to disrespect the career of the GOAT just because we appreciate the potential next GOAT.

[Patler]

Dude that contract was Rodgers on his way downhill. Love is rising up the mountain so how can you even compare. One contract was for what the QB had already done. This contract is about what the QB is gonna do. You’re supposed to be a stock guy and you can’t understand that investment? Probably just making all that shit up you studio gangsta.

It's not the cost, it's the value. We think Love will be worth the contract, despite the small sample size. That's the other thing with the Rodgers contract, if he had left a year earlier, we'd be more certain of Love's value, although the lack of receivers in '22 might have limited Love's development.

That, and it was totally wasted money. They had Rodgers under control for as long as they were going to want him before the Jordan Love experiment would begin. Rodgers may have whined, complained, skipped practices, camps, whatever; but in the end he wasn't likely to retire yet, regardless of what he said. If he did, so what? The had a first round QB on the roster to replace him.

That last contract was a flat-out gift to Rodgers, just to shut him up. They should have played hardball with him, instead. It was fiscally irresponsible, in my opinion.