Good point, Fritz. A new kicker will take a long time to learn all the Packer's special team plays.
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5 out of Mason’s first 6 years were below 80% accuracy on FGs (and he was 21/33 in 2012 for 63% accuracy).
I’m all for competition but like Aaron, Jordan, Mason, DaVante and Rashan - early year performance (or sitting out) is not indicative of long term success.
I hope Carlson has a long career with GB.The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
Vince Lombardi
"Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.
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They will choose one of them and then sign a guy to the PS to see if he can be the guy. Then if they decide yes they will make the swap. If not, they will cut said PS guy and bring in another guy until they find their man. If they keep a K in the PS for 3 weeks or more it likely means the guy on the 53 is here to stay.Originally posted by Fritz View PostIt would seem weird though to sign a guy and just hand him the keys to the kicker car without ever having worked with him on a day-to-day basis. But maybe that's how it goes with kickers. I am wondering if maybe they do bring someone in after cuts to compete with Joseph or Carlsen (whoever wins-by-default).
It has not been a great training camp for either guy. Joseph started well but he seems to be struggling lately, and Carlsen has been lukewarm.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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I'm telling you, Carlson's footwork is a mess for a kicker. I can't believe they are even flirting with him as the long term answer to be honest.Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post5 out of Mason’s first 6 years were below 80% accuracy on FGs (and he was 21/33 in 2012 for 63% accuracy).
I’m all for competition but like Aaron, Jordan, Mason, DaVante and Rashan - early year performance (or sitting out) is not indicative of long term success.
I hope Carlson has a long career with GB.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Did they not know that when he was drafted? I’m not a ST guy or a placekicker expert - I’m just looking at the distance and accuracy - plus using a draft pick on him.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostI'm telling you, Carlson's footwork is a mess for a kicker. I can't believe they are even flirting with him as the long term answer to be honest.The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
Vince Lombardi
"Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.
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A lot of kickers and punters have to adjust their footwork when they go to the NFL because of the need to get the kick off quicker. Maybe Carlson is one of those who has struggled with the adjustment.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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And just when I was beginning to consider jumping to Joseph hahahaha. Joseph in the game seemed to be straight down the middle every time but not a lot of leg strength. Now, he's missing too? Maybe we really do pick up somebody after the final cuts. Didn't we do that once back in the day?Originally posted by Joemailman View PostAndy Herman
@AndyHermanNFL
Realized I forgot to update this with Joseph's miss at the end of the day:
Joseph went 3/7 on the day
Carlson went 4/6 on the day
Totals for camp:
Greg Joseph: 50/61 - 82.0%
Anders Carlson: 48/60 - 80.0%
Alex Hale: 10/15 - 66.7%
Not exactly ideal
On a related topic hahahaha, Kickoffs: There are a LOT of high school stars and maybe even a few college players who kicked a little back then and who maybe can't kick it down to the goal line, but maybe could consistently drop it into that landing zone. If, heaven forbid, there was a break through of our front ten, I'd much rather have a DB or LB or RB or WR chasing down that sprinting returner than Carlson or Joseph.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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I hope he does too, but we can't wait a few years with this team.Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post5 out of Mason’s first 6 years were below 80% accuracy on FGs (and he was 21/33 in 2012 for 63% accuracy).
I’m all for competition but like Aaron, Jordan, Mason, DaVante and Rashan - early year performance (or sitting out) is not indicative of long term success.
I hope Carlson has a long career with GB.
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It sounds like the way my wife used to go shopping at the bargain bin.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostThey will choose one of them and then sign a guy to the PS to see if he can be the guy. Then if they decide yes they will make the swap. If not, they will cut said PS guy and bring in another guy until they find their man. If they keep a K in the PS for 3 weeks or more it likely means the guy on the 53 is here to stay.
As important as the kicking game is, I'm surprised more teams don't spend a little more draft capital to get a good one. Maybe Philly was smart to draft that Michigan kicker, Jake Moody, in the third round last year. The guy is good and has a big leg. And he's theirs for another three years."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Originally posted by Fritz View PostIt would seem weird though to sign a guy and just hand him the keys to the kicker car without ever having worked with him on a day-to-day basis. But maybe that's how it goes with kickers. I am wondering if maybe they do bring someone in after cuts to compete with Joseph or Carlsen (whoever wins-by-default).
It has not been a great training camp for either guy. Joseph started well but he seems to be struggling lately, and Carlsen has been lukewarm.
The fact that they brought in a 3rd guy is your answer. I'm sure have a list accumulated of kickers at risk of not making a team and already have them rated somehow.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Gutey said they are competing against everyone in every camp. It’s not a 2 way race.The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
Vince Lombardi
"Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.
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It’s like dating the hottest woman in town: everybody’s always after what you’ve got.Originally posted by Fosco33 View PostGutey said they are competing against everyone in every camp. It’s not a 2 way race.
Go Warm Carlsen!"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Originally posted by Fritz View PostIt’s like dating the hottest woman in town: everybody’s always after what you’ve got.
Go Warm Carlsen!
Or in GB's situation, it's bartime, the beer goggles are on, and the three chicks we have at Kicker are still really dam ugly
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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