WHAT IS THE FATE OF THE DIRTY ANDERS ?

[Fritz]

Lots of times teams will wait to release particular players in the flurry of final roster cutdowns, in the hope that through the chaos said player will be overlooked by other teams and can be snuck onto the practice squad.

But does this apply to kickers? Do teams keep kickers on the practice squad "just in case," or are they seen as easily available off the street?

[Joemailman]

Lots of times teams will wait to release particular players in the flurry of final roster cutdowns, in the hope that through the chaos said player will be overlooked by other teams and can be snuck onto the practice squad.

But does this apply to kickers? Do teams keep kickers on the practice squad "just in case," or are they seen as easily available off the street?

During 2020-21 Covid period, teams kept a kicker on the PS to make sure they had an available 2nd kicker in case their kicker got covid. Don't know if they do that now. The Packers did not have a kicker on their initial practice squad last year.

[MadScientist]

Lots of times teams will wait to release particular players in the flurry of final roster cutdowns, in the hope that through the chaos said player will be overlooked by other teams and can be snuck onto the practice squad.

But does this apply to kickers? Do teams keep kickers on the practice squad "just in case," or are they seen as easily available off the street?

There's only minimal value to having a kicker on the PS vs grabbing a guy off the street. A kicker on the PS can be taken by any other team, and it's not like they have a whole playbook they need to learn. May as well use that spot for a player they want to develop.

[bobblehead]

The statistics are surprisingly against kicking field goals. Stats say you never kick the field goal if you have 4 or fewer yards to go.

I would like to see how those "stats" are derived. And honestly...and I'm not criticizing YOU on this, but if you have 4th and 2 with 8 seconds to go and you are down 2 at the 10 yard line that idea of "never"....well you get the idea.

My point is that game tempo, situation, etc. factors in huge. I hate statistics like that. I'd also point out that the "gurus" who come up with that likely fail to factor in a couple other things. Giving incredible field position to your opponent when you fail and how often do you make it when you do it and then fail the next time on the same drive? If you go for it 3 times on the same drive but fail once from their 40 yard line its a massive fail. But you made it 2/3 times so said "guru" might say that you should go for it every time. Said guru would be very wrong.

[MadtownPacker]

You listed a lot of scenarios but failed to account for the defense getting stops after those failed attempts. Is this your side gig?

[ThunderDan]

I would like to see how those "stats" are derived. And honestly...and I'm not criticizing YOU on this, but if you have 4th and 2 with 8 seconds to go and you are down 2 at the 10 yard line that idea of "never"....well you get the idea.

My point is that game tempo, situation, etc. factors in huge. I hate statistics like that. I'd also point out that the "gurus" who come up with that likely fail to factor in a couple other things. Giving incredible field position to your opponent when you fail and how often do you make it when you do it and then fail the next time on the same drive? If you go for it 3 times on the same drive but fail once from their 40 yard line its a massive fail. But you made it 2/3 times so said "guru" might say that you should go for it every time. Said guru would be very wrong.

Kind of like the 2nd Lions game last year. They lost the ball on downs 3 times during the game and lost by 7. If they had taken the points it could have swung the game to a Lions victory.

I commented on this at least a couple of times in the game day thread that Det was passing up points and it bit them in the end.

[MadScientist]

I would like to see how those "stats" are derived. And honestly...and I'm not criticizing YOU on this, but if you have 4th and 2 with 8 seconds to go and you are down 2 at the 10 yard line that idea of "never"....well you get the idea.

My point is that game tempo, situation, etc. factors in huge. I hate statistics like that. I'd also point out that the "gurus" who come up with that likely fail to factor in a couple other things. Giving incredible field position to your opponent when you fail and how often do you make it when you do it and then fail the next time on the same drive? If you go for it 3 times on the same drive but fail once from their 40 yard line its a massive fail. But you made it 2/3 times so said "guru" might say that you should go for it every time. Said guru would be very wrong.

Unless you get sacked for 7+ yards, going for it and failing puts you in less of a hole than kicking and failing. Unfortunately, kicking and failing with our kickers is entirely too likely.

[Joemailman]

Tom Silverstein
@TomSilverstein

#Packers have transferred their NFL International Player Pathway designation to K Alex Hale and released DL Kenneth Odumegwu. Hale is from Australia, so he qualifies for the program. He doesn't count against the roster but will have to clear waivers to join the PS.

Hale was the 3rd kicker in camp. So this likely means he'll be carried on the practice squad. I kind of expect Joseph to be cut before the next game.

[red]

heres an idea

we're gonna be in brazil the first week of the season. hold open tryouts

todlers can kick the shit out of balls down there

[Fritz]

Tom Silverstein
@TomSilverstein

#Packers have transferred their NFL International Player Pathway designation to K Alex Hale and released DL Kenneth Odumegwu. Hale is from Australia, so he qualifies for the program. He doesn't count against the roster but will have to clear waivers to join the PS.

Hale was the 3rd kicker in camp. So this likely means he'll be carried on the practice squad. I kind of expect Joseph to be cut before the next game.

Keeping Hale as a developmental project means Anders is on the Hot Carlsen seat…

So they toss the other poor bastard out on his ear. One day he’s joshing with the guys and learning American idioms (“So what is this ‘Warm Carlson’ thing I read on this Packerrats fan site?”) and the next minute he’s looking for flights back to Zimbabwe or Nigeria of wherever he’s from.

[bobblehead]

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2024/8/20/24224786/green-bay-packers-analysis-kicking-competition-it-probably-doesnt-matter-who-wins-the-kicking-battle

[MadScientist]

heres an idea

we're gonna be in brazil the first week of the season. hold open tryouts

todlers can kick the shit out of balls down there

That would actually be a really good publicity stunt for the Packers to do. Offer a practice jersey to anyone who makes a 40 yarder in two attempts and watch the press go crazy. And maybe they find a better prospect than Skipper.

[bobblehead]

heres an idea

we're gonna be in brazil the first week of the season. hold open tryouts

todlers can kick the shit out of balls down there

Toddlers kick balls pretty hard everywhere. Especially that excited baby stomp they do.

[Fosco33]

heres an idea

we're gonna be in brazil the first week of the season. hold open tryouts

todlers can kick the shit out of balls down there

This is the smartest thing you’ve ever said

[sharpe1027]

I would like to see how those "stats" are derived. And honestly...and I'm not criticizing YOU on this, but if you have 4th and 2 with 8 seconds to go and you are down 2 at the 10 yard line that idea of "never"....well you get the idea.

My point is that game tempo, situation, etc. factors in huge. I hate statistics like that. I'd also point out that the "gurus" who come up with that likely fail to factor in a couple other things. Giving incredible field position to your opponent when you fail and how often do you make it when you do it and then fail the next time on the same drive? If you go for it 3 times on the same drive but fail once from their 40 yard line its a massive fail. But you made it 2/3 times so said "guru" might say that you should go for it every time. Said guru would be very wrong.

Okay, okay. I didn't put enough qualifiers in my short post. I figured people could understand there's implied assumptions behind what I stated. I figured wrong.