Packers have a kicking problem

[Fritz]

Strong leg and reasonably accurate. That's a good upgrade. I agree with you on the Joseph analysis. If he was not lights out in a dome, he would have been a problem at Lambeau in December.

This is not the time of year to hold back, Mad.

HE'S GONNA BE THE GREATEST KICKER IN PACKER HISTORY, BABY!

But if he can be a real NFL kicker in terms of PAT's (they're supposed to be nearly automatic, not an adventure like they were with Cold Carlson), and if he can hit consistently inside the 45-yard-range and have a legit shot at the 45+ attempts, then we'll take that. Hell yeah!

[red]

so we signed a rookie kicker who's career college numbers are worse then what carlson did last year

not sure about the upgrade

he did have a nice preseason and even had a game winner

[Joemailman]

so we signed a rookie kicker who's career college numbers are worse then what carlson did last year

not sure about the upgrade

he did have a nice preseason and even had a game winner

I think a lot of kickers who make it in the NFL had worse numbers in college. Just not as much emphasis on special teams. Justin Tucker was a low 80's kicker in college. 90% as a pro.

[Fritz]

He's already an upgrade, because he's given us one thing already that Joseph and Cold Carlson never did: hope.

Here's a good example of what players on the bubble mean when they say it's important to put some good tape out there:

'"At this point, no, I don't think so," Tennessee coach Bill Callahan said when asked if there's an ongoing kicking battle between Narveson and Folk. "But I think it was good to see him [Narveson] hit from 59 [yards]. "I don't think it changes much, but it was a very positive development for us, and for him, you put that on tape in a live-action game, and you'll get a lot of action for hitting that field goal."'

And he did. Well, enough to land him a job.

Also, bonus points that he looks a little like Jeremy from Clarkson's Farm, if you're familiar with that show, AND that he is capable of growing facial hair:

[Joemailman]

Let's hope that this thread title is obsolete soon.

I hope we all get addicted to Narveson.

We're talking about Packers special teams here.

[Fritz]

We're talking about Packers special teams here.

You need to take some Narveson. That'll get you pumped up.

[CaptainKickass]

The Packers have a kicking problem.

Now, the kickers have a packing problem!

[Vincenzo]

Brayden Narveson went undrafted this spring after playing five collegiate seasons at three different schools and converting 78.0 percent of his career field-goal attempts.

78% is nothing special but he didn't miss an XP in his collegiate career. I believe Carlson missed the most XP’s in the league last year.

Rookie Kickers are risky, which means Lafleur will tend to keep the drive alive by pressing the situation and going for it on 4th rather than taking what should be a gimmie 3-point chip shot.

If we stick with this young guy, I think we’re gonna be holding our breaths every time the rookie hits the field.

[Tony Oday]

I'm prepared to eat crow for this but, I'm calling it that he will be the third best kicker in franchise history.

[Tony Oday]

Double

[SudsMcBucky]

I think a lot of kickers who make it in the NFL had worse numbers in college. Just not as much emphasis on special teams. Justin Tucker was a low 80's kicker in college. 90% as a pro.

And keep in mind, FG's are harder in college because of the wider hash spreads. Makes for much worse angles for kicking.

[Fritz]

And keep in mind, FG's are harder in college because of the wider hash spreads. Makes for much worse angles for kicking.

Normally I don't watch coaches' press conferences, because I have heard enough coachspeak in my lifetime, but I was curious as to what The Flower would say about the new kicker, so I watched the fifteen minutes. A couple of things really popped out for me:

First, my impression of LeFleur has been, in the bits I've seen, that he can be kinda dickish. He makes snarky remarks to reporters, and he did it again a couple times in the presser I watched yesterday. Someone's alarm went off, interrupting things, and yes that's annoying, but MLF said something snarky. I mean, these guys are paid to be very good coaches, and surely he is. I get that he's not paid to be liked. But he just rubs me the wrong way - he's that arrogant high school jock guy who puts people in their place whether they need it or not.

And I know, his players love him. He gives them love back, as he did in the presser. That's more important than if I "like" the guy, I know. But I just wanted to make that observation. I like the way the Loins' coach handles his pressers. He seems to take the questions seriously, and answer as honestly as an NFL coach can, as opposed to MLF's sniping and snarkiness and then his canned stuff.

But onto my second observation: for a head coach, MLF is amazingly, amazingly ignorant of the special teams, or at least how kickers prepare and how the operation works. He was asked about getting Narveson up to speed, and MLF just shrugged and said it wasn't a questioln for him. Period. It was a question for the ST coach, not for him. He said something like "I don't know, just kick the ball."

I also noted in this exchange that he had a chance to praise Bisaccia - he did that with the defensive coaches on a different question - but he didn't bring him up at all regarding getting the kicker ready. Didn't mention him by name, just said that the question about the kicker getting ready was a question for the ST coach. Normally, a coach will throw in "I have a lot of confidence that Coach X will have Player Y ready for the game," but no. Nothing. Yet, as I said, on a question about the defensive looks for game one, MLF went out of his way to praise the whole coaching staff and their connection to their defensive players.

Just some observations on my part.

[bobblehead]

Now, the kickers have a packing problem!

Ok, that made me smile. I like word games.

[bobblehead]

Double

Would that make him the 6th best kicker in team history?

[bobblehead]

Normally I don't watch coaches' press conferences, because I have heard enough coachspeak in my lifetime, but I was curious as to what The Flower would say about the new kicker, so I watched the fifteen minutes. A couple of things really popped out for me:

First, my impression of LeFleur has been, in the bits I've seen, that he can be kinda dickish. He makes snarky remarks to reporters, and he did it again a couple times in the presser I watched yesterday. Someone's alarm went off, interrupting things, and yes that's annoying, but MLF said something snarky. I mean, these guys are paid to be very good coaches, and surely he is. I get that he's not paid to be liked. But he just rubs me the wrong way - he's that arrogant high school jock guy who puts people in their place whether they need it or not.

And I know, his players love him. He gives them love back, as he did in the presser. That's more important than if I "like" the guy, I know. But I just wanted to make that observation. I like the way the Loins' coach handles his pressers. He seems to take the questions seriously, and answer as honestly as an NFL coach can, as opposed to MLF's sniping and snarkiness and then his canned stuff.

But onto my second observation: for a head coach, MLF is amazingly, amazingly ignorant of the special teams, or at least how kickers prepare and how the operation works. He was asked about getting Narveson up to speed, and MLF just shrugged and said it wasn't a questioln for him. Period. It was a question for the ST coach, not for him. He said something like "I don't know, just kick the ball."

I also noted in this exchange that he had a chance to praise Bisaccia - he did that with the defensive coaches on a different question - but he didn't bring him up at all regarding getting the kicker ready. Didn't mention him by name, just said that the question about the kicker getting ready was a question for the ST coach. Normally, a coach will throw in "I have a lot of confidence that Coach X will have Player Y ready for the game," but no. Nothing. Yet, as I said, on a question about the defensive looks for game one, MLF went out of his way to praise the whole coaching staff and their connection to their defensive players.

Just some observations on my part.

I think Bisaccia is rightfully taking some internal heat for basically getting the team to draft Carlson. You gave the man a fat contract to fix special teams and he botched it. Replacing Barry was priority one last year, but Mr. B is probably on thin ice right now.