More Banjo - Packers vs. vikings

[sharpe1027]

Some interesting pass-rush tidbits I found:

- The Packers rank last in the NFL in ESPN's pass rush win rate metric.
- Rashan Gary has the Packers' worst PFF pass rush grade, with one sack and no QB hits.
- Since Week 14 of 2023, Gary has one sack, six hits, and 24 hurries.

Does that metric just cover DL?

[Patler]

Does that metric just cover DL?

I don't know, as I saw a summary commentary, not the source material.

[sharpe1027]

I don't know, as I saw a summary commentary, not the source material.

Seems odd they'd be so low as a team when they're 9th in sacks. I found another site that listed them as seventh in sack percentage, which I assume is sacks per pass attempt. Something doesn't add up.

[Patler]

Seems odd they'd be so low as a team when they're 9th in sacks. I found another site that listed them as seventh in sack percentage, which I assume is sacks per pass attempt. Something doesn't add up.

If ESPN includes hits, hurries and pressures as pass rush "wins" it could explain it.

[Joemailman]

If a team is relying on blitzes for a lot of their sacks, they could be low in pass rush win rate and still get a fair number of sacks. Also, coverage sacks may not include what would be considered a pass rush win.

[bobblehead]

Agreed. The Queens were leaning heavy on Jones and the Packers were short handed in the secondary. The DB issues might have limited their ability to blitz. They might have been focused on containing Jones (hard to convince me they were very worried about Darnold running).

Bad call by Halfwit. When you have inadequate coverage you blitz more so routes can't develop. Bring the heat, don't let Darnold wait for our bad CBs to break down. You may get burned occasionally but its the right strategy.

[sharpe1027]

If a team is relying on blitzes for a lot of their sacks, they could be low in pass rush win rate and still get a fair number of sacks. Also, coverage sacks may not include what would be considered a pass rush win.

Yes, this might be part of it. Perhaps along with Patler's point.

[Joemailman]

Some things never change.

Wendell Ferreira
@wendellfp

Packers DVOA ranks through 4 weeks:

Team: 7th

Offense: 3rd
Defense: 19th
Special teams: 28th

[Fritz]

Some things never change.

Wendell Ferreira
@wendellfp

Packers DVOA ranks through 4 weeks:

Team: 7th

Offense: 3rd
Defense: 19th
Special teams: 28th

Holy cow. Same ol', same ol' Packers!

Let's hope they can turn around the special teams and the defense improves.

[sharpe1027]

19th is probably an improvement.

[Joemailman]

Can't say he didn't spread the ball around.

[MadtownPacker]

With 54 attempts is more like he ran out of places to pick. Pretty sure that many attempts usually mean losing.

[Joemailman]

With 54 attempts is more like he ran out of places to pick. Pretty sure that many attempts usually mean losing.

That was certainly not the game plan. Would have been nice if the defense could have gotten a stop or 2 in the 1st half.

[MadtownPacker]

That was certainly not the game plan. Would have been nice if the defense could have gotten a stop or 2 in the 1st half.

Doubt it would have mattered. Might have just been more INTs the way Love was chucking it up for grabs.

[call_me_ishmael]

Romeo Doubs skipping practice because he's unhappy with his role? Yikes. Bad vibes from a team that seemed to have such good vibes last year.