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  • #16
    Originally posted by Fritz View Post
    As PB Max always said, it's the factory of sadness.

    As I understand it, Watson is so Fubared that they're giving him the easiest possible offense to execute - like high school stuff - because he can't process shit for some reason any more.

    It's poison out there in Cleveland. Kinda like the Jest in New York. Or, at this point, the Cowboys in Dallas. Jerruh has poisoned that well, with his ridiculous signing of Prescott and his choice of HC, who will soon be fired, I imagine.

    Wait . . . then they can hire Jim Schvantz in Dallas!
    Watson had a high sack to pressure rate, this year it's really bad. I think he's staring down the rush instead of looking downfield. I also think the legal stuff plays a mental toll on him. The important QB traits between the ears are betraying him big time right now. The offense isn't designed to his strengths either, but I think everyone is kind of checked out and doesn't care at this point.

    Oh yeah, there's also that shoulder surgery he had. Maybe it didn't heal right or he didn't rehab it properly? Who knows. A surgery doesn't guarantee you'll be the same afterwards.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by RandsRevenge View Post
      One note on Cleveland. They are struggling with a defensive coordinator who used to be a Detroilet coach who wasn't entirely terrible. For some reason, a defense of startling talents cannot play disciplined ball. I guess it's just "cowabunga" to the QB and no one cares if lanes are left open, if LBs scrape to cover a hole, if safeties help. Do people communicate at all? Maybe they just don't care given what's on the other side of the ball. Their offense is just awful. the O-line is incompetent, and they are depleted at skill positions. The QB is awful, but it's hard to tell how much is his fault. Trained in a wild, freewheeling style, asked to be a drop back QB with about 0.5 seconds to hold the ball. Well, good night. Firing the coach isn't gonna help anyone, but it might feel good for a while, like scratching a poison oak rash.
      Hmm...RandsRevenge following an Ohio team? MrAyn is that you!!

      edit: I see everyone beat me to the party. I won't be convinced until CleftCrusty makes his return.
      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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      • #18
        Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
        Hmm...RandsRevenge following an Ohio team? MrAyn is that you!!

        edit: I see everyone beat me to the party. I won't be convinced until CleftCrusty makes his return.
        I thought PB was the Cleveland fan. mraynrand too?
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
          I thought PB was the Cleveland fan. mraynrand too?
          Wasn’t it that PB actually liked them and Rand was ashamed of them, like his manhood.

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          • #20
            I’m done w/ Rich as our ST guy
            The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
            Vince Lombardi

            "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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            • #21
              Saints fire Dennis Allen after 7th straight loss. ST coach Darren Rizzi has been named interim coach.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                Saints fire Dennis Allen after 7th straight loss. ST coach Darren Rizzi has been named interim coach.
                I almost logged in to predict that after that shit show yesterday. Allen was horrible, but he also was given the short game master in Carr to work with.

                I'm kind of surprised fat mike is still employed. That has to have the shelf life of raw open oysters.
                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                • #23
                  Cowboys had their bye week after losing 47-9 to the Lions. If Jerry was going to fire him during the season, I think it would have been then.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                    Cowboys had their bye week after losing 47-9 to the Lions. If Jerry was going to fire him during the season, I think it would have been then.
                    Agree. There's not much to be gained by firing the HC, even when he's a lame duck on the last year of the contract. They will simply not renew it and let the players audition for camp invites.
                    Dallas has a lot of injuries on D, it doesn't excuse their bad offense. (Well, McCarthy as your coach might explain it.) Feels like there's some bad juju in that building. Maybe it's Jerrah.

                    The Saints are a mess - they have overcooked their cap to where almost every players has void years, and they are stuck with Carr at QB. Benching him for Rattler isn't an improvement.
                    They'll be $60M over the cap next year, with little room to manuver (because of aforementioned void years). Oh, and they just extended Kamara, who is their best player but is also a 29 year old RB with some wear and tear on him.

                    Olave is on his 4th concussion after the hospital ball Carr threw yesterday, and they only have 5 draft picks next year.
                    That team will have to have a firesale and be torn down to the studs and rebuilt. Someone probably tries to trade for Marshon Lattimore.

                    Point is, firing Dennis Allen barely moves the needle in fixing their issues.



                    Finally, Luke Getsy got canned from an OC job for the 2nd time in 10 months (first CHI, now LV). Think about that for a minute.

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                    • #25
                      I think it's kind of funny that the Raiders let Jacobs get away in the offseason, trade Adams during the season and then start firing their offensive coaches. What a clown show.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                        I think it's kind of funny that the Raiders let Jacobs get away in the offseason, trade Adams during the season and then start firing their offensive coaches. What a clown show.
                        Hiring Pierce was a mistake. Maybe they regret letting Bisaccia go lol
                        I can't think of a time when making the interim HC the HC was a good idea.

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                        • #27
                          Eberflus has to be on this list.

                          DJ Moore walked off the field during a play yesterday when Williams was still scrambling with the ball. After the cluster of Tyrique Stevenson forgetting taunting fans and Moore walking off during a play, the team has tuned him out.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Sparkey View Post

                            DJ Moore walked off the field during a play yesterday when Williams was still scrambling with the ball.

                            https://x.com/i/status/1853460485443670087
                            Just looking at that play in isolation, he made a move to get open, was open, and Williams - under duress - did not throw to him and eventually scrambled the other way. He limped off like he was injured, but he had stepped out anyway following through on the comeback. Not sure what to make of it. He must have returned to the game; he went 4 for 33 yards on 9 targets.

                            With 83 million guaranteed and a 4 year 110 extension, he's not moving.

                            Waldron appears to be keeping his play-calling job - for now.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              I think it's kind of funny that the Raiders let Jacobs get away in the offseason, trade Adams during the season and then start firing their offensive coaches. What a clown show.
                              The Davis family motto. We are clown shoes.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by RandsRevenge View Post
                                Just looking at that play in isolation, he made a move to get open, was open, and Williams - under duress - did not throw to him and eventually scrambled the other way. He limped off like he was injured, but he had stepped out anyway following through on the comeback. Not sure what to make of it. He must have returned to the game; he went 4 for 33 yards on 9 targets.

                                With 83 million guaranteed and a 4 year 110 extension, he's not moving.

                                Waldron appears to be keeping his play-calling job - for now.
                                Heard Moore this AM on the local Bears program, interestingly that play never came up. Waldron may be in trouble but currently Bears nation is clamoring for Eberflus’ head on a silver platter.

                                In any case, welcome to the forum RandsRevenge.

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