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    Packers vs. Lions Discussion Thread

    Packers lead all-time series 106-76-7. 104-76-7 in regular season, 2-0 in playoffs.

    Last meeting: November 23, 2023. Packers defeated the Lions 29-22 on Thanksgiving Day in Detroit. Jordan Love threw for 268 yard with 3 TD's. Christian Watson caught 5 passes for 94 yards and 1 TD. Rashan Gary had 3 sacks and 2 forced fumbles. For the Lions, Jared Goff threw for 332 yards and 2 TD's. Kalif Raymond caught 5 passes for 90 yards. Amon-Ra St. Brown caught 9 passes for 95 yards. Prior to this game the Lions had won 4 straight over the Packers.

    The Lions are 6-1, coming off a 52-14 trouncing of the Tennessee Titans. 6 of the Lions scoring drives started inside the Titans 30 yard line. Offensively, the Lions rank 1st in the NFL in points scored, and 6th in yards gained. Jared Goff has completed 74.1% of his passes for 1695 yards with 13 TD's and 4 INT's. Goff has been sacked 17 times. Amon-Ra St. Brown leads the Lions with 408 receiving yards and 5 TD's. Jameson Williams has 361 receiving yards but will miss this game due to suspension. Jahmyr Gibbs leads the Lions with 591 rushing yards and 6 TD's, averaging 6.4 YPC. David Montgomery has 415 yards rushing with 7 TD's, averaging 4.5 YPC.

    Defensively, the Lions rank 8th in points allowed and 20th in yards allowed. Opposing QB's have completed 65.1% of their passes for 1733 yards with just 6 TD's and 10 INT's. Opponents have rushed for 713 yards and 7 TD's averaging 4.7 YPC. The Lions have sacked opposing QB's 20 times. However, Aidan Hutchinson, who leads them with 7.5 sacks is out with an injury.

    Lions are favored by 4.5, apparently factoring in that Love will not likely play.
    Over/Under: 48.5
    Moneyline: Lions -205, Packers +170
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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  • #2
    Detroit is on fire right now, embarrassing the Cowboys and the Titans. Goff is being talked about as an MVP candidate. Unless GB gets healthy and plays a complete game for the 2nd time this season (ARI being the first) I don't have a lot of confidence in them getting a win.

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    • #3
      Some hopeful injury news:

      Tom Pelissero
      @TomPelissero

      An MRI confirmed optimism about Jordan Love’s status: He’ll be day to day and has a shot to play Sunday.

      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #4
        Originally posted by run pMc View Post
        Detroit is on fire right now, embarrassing the Cowboys and the Titans. Goff is being talked about as an MVP candidate. Unless GB gets healthy and plays a complete game for the 2nd time this season (ARI being the first) I don't have a lot of confidence in them getting a win.
        Even if everyone heals enough to play, they will still be less than 100% and down on practice time. The best hope is that Detroit sees this and gets high off all the good press they are getting right now.
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        • #5
          There is no way Willis doesn’t get in this game. I just hope it’s not due to Love struggling if he starts. Tony Dungy and Rodney Harrison straight up said they would go with Willis regardless for the Lions game. I have to agree.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
            There is no way Willis doesn’t get in this game. I just hope it’s not due to Love struggling if he starts. Tony Dungy and Rodney Harrison straight up said they would go with Willis regardless for the Lions game. I have to agree.
            Agreed.

            From Mailman's synopsis:

            'Opponents have rushed for 713 yards and 7 TD's averaging 4.7 YPC. '

            Lots of Jacobs, set up the play action for Willis to take his shots. Some designed runs for Willis.

            Let J.Love rest and heal.

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            • #7
              Opponents are getting good ground success because they Lions have big leads and stop defending the run (part of it anyway). The Lions are really good. They are built in the image I like so it pisses me off. I think they are better than us, and that pisses me off even more.
              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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              • #8
                Hopefully the damn hyper-cautious medical people get overruled and Love plays. Willis is a good change of pace, and he can beat some lesser teams especially coming in unexpectedly, but his chances as a starter against a good team are not very good.
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                • #9
                  The Lions defense remains suspect just as the Packers exposed it last year. Their defense holds up well when playing with a lead where they can get the opposition away from a balanced offense. Their special teams is really what separates them. Their offense didn’t do anything last week and they scored 50 because their return game was off the charts.

                  BitchSac will likely be embarrassed this week. I believe the scrambling ability of Willis would come in handy against an aggressive Lions defense.
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                  • #10
                    I’m with Tex. Ain’t dissing Good Willis Hunting, but the high school offense the Packers run with Willis ain’t gonna cut it against the Pussies. Gonna need Love and the Mobius Inversion Offense, cos, with Goff pimping like an MVP, game’s likely gonna be a shoot out.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                      Hopefully the damn hyper-cautious medical people get overruled and Love plays. Willis is a good change of pace, and he can beat some lesser teams especially coming in unexpectedly, but his chances as a starter against a good team are not very good.
                      I think this is likely and L regardless of who starts so I would err on caution and go with Willis. We have a bye after so its 2 weeks off for Love. Added bonus if Willis is forced to throw and balls out his trade value in the offseason skyrockets.
                      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                        I’m with Tex. Ain’t dissing Good Willis Hunting, but the high school offense the Packers run with Willis ain’t gonna cut it against the Pussies. Gonna need Love and the Mobius Inversion Offense, cos, with Goff pimping like an MVP, game’s likely gonna be a shoot out.
                        I'll disagree with both of you. Watch the game again and notice the play action that was near non existent when Love was in the game, but emerged and was wildly successful when Willis was in the game. As with the starts, I think we didn't let willis pass enough. There was room for at least 1 more (probably 2) play actions in Willis' limited time this week. Coaches with highly paid QBs think that they can rely on them exclusively for some reason, but then unexplainably when Willis enters the game MiLF acknowledges (through play calling) that pounding the rock and running play action is a better path to success.

                        edit: You know what the Lions don't do with Their former #1 overall pick QB? They don't line him up in shotgun constantly eliminating any threat of play action making LB/S reads much easier.
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • #13
                          If Love is as hurt as he was last week we’re better off with Willis.
                          Love couldn’t run last week and the jags knew it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                            Hopefully the damn hyper-cautious medical people get overruled and Love plays. Willis is a good change of pace, and he can beat some lesser teams especially coming in unexpectedly, but his chances as a starter against a good team are not very good.
                            Please don’t tell me your falling into that moronic way of thinking and negativity. I can see you have been listen to too many media shitheads. Willis didn’t even prep for the game yet he came in when the Jaguars were acting like they were gonna ruin the day and just shut that shit down!

                            I believe he’s more than capable of handling any team. I will not let defeatist thoughts cloud my judgment the fact that you are siding with anti polar bear is everything I need to know. That guy is a fucking clown of the highest order. I wouldn’t feed any burger he flipped to a dog for fear it has e. Coli with all the shit that spews out of his facetrap.

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                            • #15
                              I think Willis is better than an injured Love. Sit him for the bye or risk a hobbled love all year and the playoff.
                              The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                              Vince Lombardi

                              "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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