Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Official 2025 Draft Thread

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #46
    Originally posted by beveaux1 View Post
    Don’t they have to win?
    WE want the teams with the bad record to win so they we jump them in their spot.

    Last year's playoff run for GB screwed us draft pick wise and then we got stuck with Morgan instead of a better player a few picks earlier
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

    Comment


    • #47
      With the Vikings losing, the Packers will draft 23rd and Vikings 24th.

      The last Packers #23 pick was Bryan Bulaga in 2010.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

      Comment


      • #48
        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
        With the Vikings losing, the Packers will draft 23rd and Vikings 24th.

        The last Packers #23 pick was Bryan Bulaga in 2010.
        I wouldn't mind seeing an identical type of pick. 9 year starter for the G&G at RT, move Zach Tom to center. They need a RG then LFG.

        Comment


        • #49
          No to offensive line in the first round, two years of back to back first round picks reminds me of Michaels and then Verba. We don't need front end starters for the offensive line, draft and develop.

          Packers are letting Stokes walk to free agency, after yesterday's comments Alexander is all but gone with the Packers eating his remaining cap hit in 2025 and 2026. Nixon may think he is a CB1, but he is delusional. Valentine is a very decent backup and possible starter but not elite. The Packers have to go heavy in the draft on corner. There are available free agents, most will be resigned by their own teams, so probably what will be available will be stop gap guys and one year 30+ year olds.
          1. Corner
          2. WR
          3. DL
          4. OL
          Last edited by Deputy Nutz; 01-14-2025, 07:59 AM.

          Comment


          • #50
            Partly because I'm a lifelong Notre Dame fan, CB Benjamin Morrison is my draft crush for the Packers. He's out with a hip injury, but he was a starter as a true freshman, intercepting 6 passes in 2022.

            Benjamin Morrison, CB, Notre Dame
            Size:

            Height: 6’0” (v) | Weight: 186 lbs (v)

            Accomplishments:

            Jim Thorpe Award Semifinalist (2023) • Freshman All-American (2022)

            “Benjamin Morrison is a technically elite corner who projects as a long-term core contributor for an NFL defense.”

            Strengths:

            Elite technician

            Patience

            Alpha on the outside

            Length

            Concerns:

            Pursuit angles vs. run

            Occasionally will sit on his heels for extended periods

            Stack/shed to counter run/screens

            Film Analysis:

            Benjamin Morrison is a technically elite corner who projects as a long-term core contributor for an NFL defense. He aligns both as a field and boundary corner, wherever the top wideout for the opposition aligns before the snap.

            In man coverage, Morrison showcases elite technique to consistently shut down the target in front of him. Can cover wideouts in press and from depth with an innate ability to put his body in between the receiver and the football. Starts in a low base with his eyes centered on the hips of the wide receiver. Smooth yet rapid backpedal that covers ground quickly but has the change of direction to accelerate toward the football.

            Morrison is extremely comfortable playing inside the contact window and is someone who plays at his own tempo on the perimeter. Meaning that he is never rushed and his technique will rarely waver on the outside. Can stay in the hip pocket of quicker, twitchier wideouts (USC), along with larger, more physical pass-catchers (Ohio State vs. Marvin Harrison Jr.). Morrison has been rarely tested down the field in his two years at Notre Dame, but he has the instincts, body positioning, and eyes to make plays on the football. Excellent down the far hashes where he will use the sideline as an extra defender, squeezing opponents into minimal space to operate. He’s a high-level competitor who takes each rep personally. Morrison’s combination of awareness, athleticism, and technique has the potential to evolve into a shutdown type of man corner at the next level.

            In zone, Morrison thrives as a communicator and downhill defender. Showcases a pure Cover 3 type of body that is a nightmare to target against. He’s a leader on the backend who understands offensive concepts and the spacing of offensive route concepts (Clemson). Extremely fluid hips to turn and run, and Morrison touts the rapid foot turnover to quickly work up to speed on vertical shots. He’s best, however, working at minimal depth where he will smother wideouts with his length and technique to eliminate pass-catchers from the progression.

            Concerns remain minimal in Morrison’s game. However, he has room to get stronger and work on his technique as a run defender and in the open field as a tackler (Ohio State).

            Overall, Morrison remains in the conversation to be the top corner taken in the 2025 NFL Draft due to his elite technique, man coverage ability, and fundamental potential to become a shutdown type of defender at the next level.

            Prospect Projection: Day 1 — Rare, All-Pro

            Written By: Ryan Fowler

            Exposures: Ohio State (2023), Clemson (2023), USC (2023)
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

            Comment


            • #51
              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              Partly because I'm a lifelong Notre Dame fan, [/I]

              Comment


              • #52
                We've had enough problems with injured CBs. And fuck any college that has a Dan Devine statue.
                2025 Ratpickers champion.

                Comment


                • #53
                  Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                  We've had enough problems with injured CBs. And fuck any college that has a Dan Devine statue.
                  On the other hand, Notre Dame did provide Wisconsin with Barry Alvarez.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

                  Comment


                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                    On the other hand, Notre Dame did provide Wisconsin with Barry Alvarez.
                    Don't care about UW or Alvarez, so Notre Dame can still go fuck itself.
                    2025 Ratpickers champion.

                    Comment


                    • #55
                      At https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/ they have Shavon Revel - CB - East Carolina as Packers most likely 1st round pick. Next Denzel Burke - CB - Ohio St., then Benjamin Morrison - CB - Notre Dame. Burke would seem to be a reach.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

                      Comment


                      • #56
                        Circling back to the posts on Jaire, he's only two years removed from All Pro I believe and still young (27). I realize he's been oft injured the past two years and somewhat of a drama queen but a fresh start I think would be appealing for both sides. Given that and his reasonable contract (16mil for 2025 and 18mil for 2026) I'd think we could trade him. Stretching this wishful thinking a bit further, I wonder if we could package him with LVN and draft pick(s) for Crosby or Garrett? Hoping Christmas comes early for a rusher in trade or FA and a high CB and WR prospect. Texas might have both in Barron and Bond in our early rounds.
                        60% of the time it works every time.

                        Comment


                        • #57
                          What would you want in return for Crosby?
                          What would you give up for Jaire and his contract, given his injury history (which goes back to college)?

                          Trading Jaire would likely not be for much, I think Jalen Ramsey got a R3 pick from MIA and he's as good and healthier. Gute isn't going to give up on LVN after two seasons. Not saying I'd be against it, just think a trade is highly unlikely and a lot of ducks have to be aligned just right.

                          I am 99% certain Gute will draft defense in R1, whether it's DE or DT to juice the pass rush or at CB to stabilize outside corner.

                          They have to get after the QB better. They took a big step back this year - I want to blame Rebrovich for that, I don't know what else to attribute it to. Trouble acclimating to the 4-3 switch? They should have acclimated once the bye came around. Nope. Something stinks there. Too much bull rushing, nobody can run the loop with speed and bend. A great pass rush can hide middling CBs, with X at safety he can help erase mistakes as well. We saw what LAR did to Darnold, we couldn't come close to that. Players who have a couple of moves and can pass rush (not 9.8 RAS athletes who only bull rush) are needed. Hafley is probably begging Gute for pass rush.

                          Nixon played better than I thought he would this year - he was better than average - but I don't think you want him as your CB1. Valentine has talent but he's a knucklehead. You can't count on Jaire, and this is not a great draft class for healthy R1 CB talent - I think last year's class was better actually. I'd like to see them go after a different kind of athlete at CB than straight line speedsters like Stokes and Valentine. I think they need guys with better hip flexibility and agility to handle the likes of DJ Moore, Jefferson, Addison, and St. Brown. They (barely) went 1-5 in their own division, 0-3 at home. That's.... unacceptable. Having guys with the agility to stick in coverage would go a long way towards changing that.

                          OL and WR are going to be areas they look to shore up. Watson will be on the PUP, who knows what's up with Doubs.

                          Comment


                          • #58
                            Funny, the Packers pass rush was way down this year compared to last year. I really thought they did an overall better job at rushing the passer. Kenny Clark's pass rush numbers completely fell of the table from last year. He went from 7.5 last year to 1 this year. Also Preston Smith's only had 2.5 sacks before being traded. and Gary had 1.5 less than last year. I don't think adding a pass rusher in the first round is the ticket though. They are really young on the edge with Gary being the oldest at 27 years old. I think they could address it in free agency but getting younger and waiting for pass rushers to develop is playing the long game.

                            There is a fine group of corners in this draft. It all depends on how well they run though, Kalen King is a great example, he was a day 2 pick all the way up until the combine and he ran a 4.6 and he dropped off the face of the earth.

                            There is also a bunch of them that are over 6'1" which could be a blessing or a curse.
                            Travis Hunter Colorado
                            Will Johnson Michigan
                            Jadee Baron Texas
                            Shavon Revel Jr Eastern Carolina * 6'3"
                            Benji Morrison Notre Dame
                            Trey Amos Ol'e Miss
                            Denzel Burke Ohio St
                            Davison Igbinosun Ohio St * 6'2"
                            Zy Alexander LSU * 6'2"
                            Darien Porter Iowa St * 6'4"
                            Maxwell Harrison Kentucky
                            Azareye'h Thomas FSU * 6'2"
                            Daylen Everette Georgia

                            Comment


                            • #59
                              Kevin King has made me nervous about "too tall" corners.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

                              Comment


                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                                Funny, the Packers pass rush was way down this year compared to last year. I really thought they did an overall better job at rushing the passer. Kenny Clark's pass rush numbers completely fell of the table from last year. He went from 7.5 last year to 1 this year. Also Preston Smith's only had 2.5 sacks before being traded. and Gary had 1.5 less than last year. I don't think adding a pass rusher in the first round is the ticket though. They are really young on the edge with Gary being the oldest at 27 years old. I think they could address it in free agency but getting younger and waiting for pass rushers to develop is playing the long game.

                                There is a fine group of corners in this draft. It all depends on how well they run though, Kalen King is a great example, he was a day 2 pick all the way up until the combine and he ran a 4.6 and he dropped off the face of the earth.

                                There is also a bunch of them that are over 6'1" which could be a blessing or a curse.
                                Travis Hunter Colorado
                                Will Johnson Michigan
                                Jadee Baron Texas
                                Shavon Revel Jr Eastern Carolina * 6'3"
                                Benji Morrison Notre Dame
                                Trey Amos Ol'e Miss
                                Denzel Burke Ohio St
                                Davison Igbinosun Ohio St * 6'2"
                                Zy Alexander LSU * 6'2"
                                Darien Porter Iowa St * 6'4"
                                Maxwell Harrison Kentucky
                                Azareye'h Thomas FSU * 6'2"
                                Daylen Everette Georgia
                                Agree drafting is playing the long game. Kingsley's got one year left and they traded Preston so they will need to do something. Maybe they look at IDL for pass rush and hope for continued development? I think that would be negligent, they feasted against TEN and SEA and were below average against everyone else. If they don't draft someone, they will have to bring in a FA, not sure how good the FA DE/EDGE group.

                                I haven't started looking at the CBs closely, but just based on how others have described them (along with likelihood they will be available for GB to draft) I like Morrison, Amos and Hairston. They're all at least 5-11 and have good production. I don't want a Stokes or Kevin King clone. They need corners who can change direction quickly. Agree on no tall corners, I think a corner bigger than 6-2 is going to have problems in coverage, might as well make them a safety or coverage LB lol. Tall corners that can cover are unicorns.

                                Would not be surprised if they draft a DL (either DT or DE) to juice pass rush, and then go CB in R2.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X