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  • #61
    Edge Rushers in 2025 draft, So far I don't think it is a top heavy group -3 to 5 legit first rounders.

    Top Ten(ish)
    Abdul Carter - Top 10 pick
    Princely Umanmielen - Don't know how you lived this long with that first name, Ole Miss - Top 40
    Jame Pierce - Tenn, Top 15 pick
    Jack Sawyer -OSU, Top 40 pick
    Mykel Williams - Georgia - Top 15 Pick
    Shemar Stewart - TA&M - Top 50
    Nic Scourton - TA&M - Top 25
    JT Tuimoloau - OSU - Top 50
    Landon Jackson - ARK - Top 50
    Mike Green - Marshall - Top 40
    Josiah Stewart - UM - Top 75
    LT Overton - Alabama - Top 50
    Braydn Swinson - LSU - Top 50
    Kyle Kennard - SC - Top 50

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    • #62
      My uninformed speculation is this is a bad draft. Tough year to be picking at the top. Not a single game changing QB. What do others think about that?

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      • #63
        Lots of QB's went in the first round of last years draft, not shocked you would see a drop this year in the position.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
          My uninformed speculation is this is a bad draft. Tough year to be picking at the top. Not a single game changing QB. What do others think about that?
          Early in the draft eval process, really doesn't pick up until after combine when measurements and medicals get leaked, and the press catches up with what the scouts think.

          I do agree that this is not a great draft overall, my guess is most teams will have at most 20 players with a R1 grade, but that's not unusual.
          I do think it's a good draft for DL and RB. The rest, is pretty meh. Many recent drafts have had good WR classes, I'm not so sure about this year. You won't see as many OL go in R1 this year either. Last year I think IND picked the first defensive player (Laitu?) in the teens, that won't happen this year for sure.

          GB picking 23 will probably take someone a large group of fans will hate because "they coulda taken him later" but really late R1 and R2 isn't going to be much different. If they get their guy and he pans out, great. Gute just needs to nail the pick for once.
          And no, they aren't trading it away for MaXXXine Crosby, not when they are hosting the draft.

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          • #65
            I don’t know man. I would be cool with Crosby over some potential bust.

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            • #66
              Tankathon Top 100 sorted by number of players at each position group:
              (Somehow numbers add up to 105. Might be some players listed at 2 positions)

              QB: 4
              RB: 7
              WR: 14
              TE: 5
              OT: 14
              IOL: 6
              DL: 11
              EDGE: 19
              LB: 5
              CB: 13
              S: 7
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #67
                Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                What would you want in return for Crosby?
                What would you give up for Jaire and his contract, given his injury history (which goes back to college)?

                Trading Jaire would likely not be for much, I think Jalen Ramsey got a R3 pick from MIA and he's as good and healthier. Gute isn't going to give up on LVN after two seasons. Not saying I'd be against it, just think a trade is highly unlikely and a lot of ducks have to be aligned just right.

                I am 99% certain Gute will draft defense in R1, whether it's DE or DT to juice the pass rush or at CB to stabilize outside corner.

                They have to get after the QB better. They took a big step back this year - I want to blame Rebrovich for that, I don't know what else to attribute it to. Trouble acclimating to the 4-3 switch? They should have acclimated once the bye came around. Nope. Something stinks there. Too much bull rushing, nobody can run the loop with speed and bend. A great pass rush can hide middling CBs, with X at safety he can help erase mistakes as well. We saw what LAR did to Darnold, we couldn't come close to that. Players who have a couple of moves and can pass rush (not 9.8 RAS athletes who only bull rush) are needed. Hafley is probably begging Gute for pass rush.

                Nixon played better than I thought he would this year - he was better than average - but I don't think you want him as your CB1. Valentine has talent but he's a knucklehead. You can't count on Jaire, and this is not a great draft class for healthy R1 CB talent - I think last year's class was better actually. I'd like to see them go after a different kind of athlete at CB than straight line speedsters like Stokes and Valentine. I think they need guys with better hip flexibility and agility to handle the likes of DJ Moore, Jefferson, Addison, and St. Brown. They (barely) went 1-5 in their own division, 0-3 at home. That's.... unacceptable. Having guys with the agility to stick in coverage would go a long way towards changing that.

                OL and WR are going to be areas they look to shore up. Watson will be on the PUP, who knows what's up with Doubs.
                This seems to make sense to me, this post. One issue that presents itself, though, is that at least at the corner position, and possibly on the offensive line, they'll need two bodies each.

                So - two corners, two offensive linemen, at least one WR, one defensive lineman (I would say interior), one linebacker. That's seven picks.
                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                KYPack

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                • #68
                  Bears, Packers, Vikings and Lions will pick 10, 23, 24, and 28.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                    Bears, Packers, Vikings and Lions will pick 10, 23, 24, and 28.
                    Bears were finally the only winner in the division!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                      This seems to make sense to me, this post. One issue that presents itself, though, is that at least at the corner position, and possibly on the offensive line, they'll need two bodies each.

                      So - two corners, two offensive linemen, at least one WR, one defensive lineman (I would say interior), one linebacker. That's seven picks.
                      All teams have holes.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                        All teams have holes.
                        But some teams have more 'holes than others.
                        I can't run no more
                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • #72
                          Yes, and I expect Gute to use both the draft and free agency to address roster holes, or in GB's case, weaknesses.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                            But some teams have more 'holes than others.
                            Yeah. Also, some teams have holes that are much deeper than others. We have a lot of holes, but they're not as deep as other teams. They won't fill them all, but they really don't need to in order to have a shot.

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                            • #74
                              Mel Kiper’s 2025 Mock Draft

                              Titans: Cam Ward, QB, Miami (1st on consensus draft board)
                              Browns: Travis Hunter, CB, Colorado (3rd)
                              Giants: Shedeur Sanders, QB, Colorado (2nd)
                              Patriots: Abdul Carter, ED, Penn State (4th)
                              Jaguars: Mason Graham, DL, Michigan (5th)
                              Raiders: Tetairoa McMillan, WR, Arizona (7th)
                              Jets: Mykel Williams, ED, Georgia (10th)
                              Panthers: Jalon Walker, ED/LB, Georgia (16th)
                              Saints: Will Johnson, CB, Michigan (6th)
                              Bears: Will Campbell, OL, LSU (8th)
                              49ers: Kelvin Banks Jr., OL, Texas (9th)
                              Cowboys: Luther Burden III, WR, Missouri (14th)
                              Dolphins: Malaki Starks, S, Georgia (12th)
                              Colts: Tyler Warren, TE, Penn State (15th)
                              Falcons: Shemar Stewart, ED, Texas A&M (25th)
                              Cardinals: Tyler Booker, OL, Alabama (27th)
                              Bengals: Jihaad Campbell, LB, Alabama (34th)
                              Seahawks: Armand Membou, OL, Missouri (36th)
                              Buccaneers: Nick Emmanwori, S, South Carolina (42nd)
                              Broncos: Ashton Jeanty, RB, Boise State (11th)
                              Steelers: Emeka Egbuka, WR, Ohio State (22nd)
                              Chargers: Colston Loveland, TE, Michigan (19th)
                              Packers: Mike Green, ED, Marshall (32nd)
                              Vikings: Benjamin Morrison, CB, Notre Dame (21st)
                              Texans: Josh Simmons, OL, Ohio State (18th)
                              Rams: Josh Conerly Jr., OL, Oregon (30th)
                              Ravens: Shavon Revel Jr., CB, East Carolina (23rd)
                              Lions: James Pearce Jr., ED, Tennessee (13th)
                              Commanders: Nic Scourton, ED, Texas A&M (17th)
                              Bills: Maxwell Hairston, CB, Kentucky (56th)
                              Chiefs: Walter Nolen, DL, Ole Miss (28th)
                              Eagles: Kenneth Grant, DL, Michigan (20th)
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • #75
                                "Packers: Mike Green, ED, Marshall (32nd)"

                                ED? Does he suffer from Erectile Dysfunction?

                                Man, I'm losing my grasp on the new terms. What's a "ED"? Is that the new lingo for what was "EDGE"?
                                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                                KYPack

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