Clark is solid, but he can be bullied. Need an anchor so Wyatt can excel.
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First Simulator Mock Draft. I currently use Pro Football Network's simulator. I don' exactly love their rankings but it's a 7 rounder with free trades.
1 rd 23rd: Shavon Revel CB, East Carolina: I really wish I knew more about him other than he is 6'3". I don't love super tall corners but he has been moving up the draft boards. I am sort of shocked he is available. The Packers need an outside corner desperately. I am pretty sure I have a better chance of being a Packer in 2025 as does Jaire Alexander.
2 rd 54th: JT Tuimolou DE Ohio St: I think this guy is hell of a football player. He can set the edge in the run game and give a hell of an effort attacking pass pro and moving the pocket off the edge. He played in a system under Jim Knowles that wants to get pressure with 4. He understands what is needed when stunting or just coming off the edge.
3 rd 87th: Darius Alexander DL Toledo: I really crushed hard on his one on one pass rush at the Senior Bowl. He won inline and out on the edge. I think he offers a little more position versatility than some other defensive tackles in this draft. This might be a reach to some, but I won't be surprised if he goes higher when the actual draft comes around.
4 rd 123th: Jayden Noel WR Iowa St: Pick 87 was a coin flip between Noel and Alexander. I was shocked when he was still available in the 4th round. He has a great release on the snap, can work the sideline and his ball tracking is pretty good. watching his film at the Senior Bowl he demonstrated great hands and the ability to catch the ball when covered.
5 rd 160th: Jonah Monheim C USC: Not sure if he would actually last this long as positional need is a factor on many draft boards, but for a top 3 center to be on the board in the 5th round should tell you something about the position. I liked his one on ones in the Senior Bowl. He didn't dominate but he didn't get rolled over. I like his tenacity and his footwork was more than decent. The Packers have options at the center position so he isn't being drafted to be a day one starter.
6 rd 200th: Oluwafemi Oladejo Edge UCLA: I like his length and his get off at the Senior Bowl. He could probably do more to refine his pass rush but if he was better he proably would go high in the draft.
7 rd 239th: Kyle Williams WR Washington St: Ok this is stealing as he won't be here this late in the draft. Just put his film on, his speed is more than just quicks, and his route running is pretty damn solid.
7 rd 251: Alijiah Huzzie CB NC: sort of liked his name. Short and aggressive, could see him working as a dime corner or basically a practice squad guy at this point in the draft. You are looking for a diamond in the rough, anyone telling you they knew a 7th rounder was going to be a stud is a lying asshole.Last edited by Deputy Nutz; 02-24-2025, 02:00 PM.
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I don't question you watching the games,Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View PostBelieve it or not, I actually do watch the games. Last season, Packers had absolutely zero pass rush threat from the interior and opponents ran up the guts like knife through butter.
They’re paying Cletidius a shit load of frogskins to roam the interior, ain’t they? Clark made a play every blue moon.
Cut Clark and use the money saved on Crosby, Garrett or even Joey Bosa.
Clark wore down by the end of the year. I thought he moved the pocket really well at the mid point of the season. The Packers pass rush was doing really well, and then sort of fell of the table by the end of the season and into the playoffs. Clark hurts the cap too much in 2025 to cut, he can be let go in 2026.
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Which is why you'd imagine the Packers are scouring this DT class for the draft. They need his successor to be in the pipeline, and maybe take some of Slaton's snaps, assuming he's not back.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View PostI don't question you watching the games,
Clark wore down by the end of the year. I thought he moved the pocket really well at the mid point of the season. The Packers pass rush was doing really well, and then sort of fell of the table by the end of the season and into the playoffs. Clark hurts the cap too much in 2025 to cut, he can be let go in 2026.
I'd like to see them go into this season with replacements for Slaton and Colby Wooden."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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I think unless someone drops into their lap they will go DL early.
The top of the CB class is kind of a mess, and they have a lot of leverage with Jaire to redo his contract. Paulson Adebo is a popular name thrown around for FA, and I don't hate the idea. DJ Reed is too small for GB, Byron Murphy was basically a one year wonder for MIN, and Asante Samuel can't tackle. I wouldn't be surprised if they took a CB or two, I just think it will be later. Johnson, Revel, and Morrison are all very talented but coming off season-ending injuries, and while I like Morrison a hip injury for a corner feels scary to me.
The DL class this year is pretty good, Slaton is likely gone and if Clark doesn't improve he might be next year. I think Wooden should drop back down to 270-275 and be a DE.
Last year they had guys who could play the run (Slaton) or rush the passer (Wyatt) but not both. Clark brought that for a few years but he's well into the back end of his career. Studies have shown it's as much about the number of snaps/seasons as it is the age of the player...and Kenny has played a lot of snaps. Russ Ball should avoid handing out 3rd contracts (except for QBs) completely.
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If this Morrison guy you mentioned has the first name of James, then you draft him, draft a couple of book-ends, and call them Jim Morrison and the Shut-the-Doors.
Man, being an NFL GM would be so easy."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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yeah, I also think they go DL or Edge in R1.Originally posted by run pMc View PostI think unless someone drops into their lap they will go DL early.
The top of the CB class is kind of a mess, and they have a lot of leverage with Jaire to redo his contract. Paulson Adebo is a popular name thrown around for FA, and I don't hate the idea. DJ Reed is too small for GB, Byron Murphy was basically a one year wonder for MIN, and Asante Samuel can't tackle. I wouldn't be surprised if they took a CB or two, I just think it will be later. Johnson, Revel, and Morrison are all very talented but coming off season-ending injuries, and while I like Morrison a hip injury for a corner feels scary to me.
The DL class this year is pretty good, Slaton is likely gone and if Clark doesn't improve he might be next year. I think Wooden should drop back down to 270-275 and be a DE.
Last year they had guys who could play the run (Slaton) or rush the passer (Wyatt) but not both. Clark brought that for a few years but he's well into the back end of his career. Studies have shown it's as much about the number of snaps/seasons as it is the age of the player...and Kenny has played a lot of snaps. Russ Ball should avoid handing out 3rd contracts (except for QBs) completely.
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My 4 Round NFC North Mock Draft:
10. Bears Kelvin Banks - OT - Texas
23. Packers Josh Simmons - OT - Ohio St.
24. Vikings Benjamin Morrison - CB - Notre Dame
31. Lions Tyliek Williams - DT - Ohio SD
39. Bears Shemar Stewart - EDGE - Texas A&M
41. Bears Omario Hampton - RB - North Carolina
54. Packers Landon Jackson - EDGE - Arkansas
60. Lions JT Tuimoloau - EDGE - Ohio St.
72. Bears Emery Jones - OT - LSU
87. Packers Zy Alexander - CB - LSU
95. Lions Dylan Fairchild - G - Georgia
97. Vikings Shemar Turner - DT - Texas A&M
101. Lions Kaden Prather - WR - Maryland
123. Packers Jared Wilson - C - Georgia
133. Lions Elijah Roberts - DT - SMUI can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Derrick Harmon and Darius Alexander among DT's that ran 40 under 5.0. Shemar Stewart ran 4.6 at 267 pounds.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View PostI am always frustrated with the Packers and their defensive line. They never seem to put it all together. Kenny Clark is still a very good player, but by 2026 I could certainly see the Packers going a different direction. I think it would make sense to look to add to the room before Clark is gone. The young talent has shown up in spots, but I would think you would want more consistency in all three downs from Wyatt. I don't see the Packers doing much in terms of trading up in the 1st round so it will be something like best player available either on the defensive line or cornerback. Packers had to address Safety and Linebacker in the second last year, and they really hit home runs with Cooper and Bullard. I will still say Cooper DeJean offered a little more flexibility than Bullard, not sure if they could have gotten both Cooper and DeJean though.
DT in 2025 That I really like with round possibilities
Walter Nolen DL: I think he offers some position versatility. Not sure if he will be available in the first round when the Packers pick
Kenneth Grant DT: Big body, with elite athleticism from Michigan. I think he will be an early second round guy.
Shemar Stewart DE: Crazy low stats, but disruptive film. Again, not sure if he will be available for the Packers in the first round
Mike Green Edge: A bit undersized but he lit up the Senior Bowl. Interesting school in Marshall. Could possibly be available for the Packers in round 1
Landon Jackson: Big defensive end from Arkansas. He could possibly be available in the second round for the Packers
Nic Scourton: Similar build to Stewart. Comes from A&M. Maybe available in the second round
Derrick Harmon: disruptive force in the middle for the Ducks, Big guy at 6'5" 310 pounds, worried about pad level. Middle of the second round
James Pierce: Freak athlete off the edge but lack of production in 2024 could be an issue and could drop him to the Packers in Round 1
Tyleik Williams DT: At 327 pounds he was disruptive for the Ohio St. Again Ohio St had the ability to get after the QB with four rushers and he was a big part of that. Probably a late round 1 guy, maybe he could drop to the second but don't know if he will drop to the Packers
TJ Sanders: South Carolina kid, like his upside with prototypical size. solid 2nd round guy
Darius Alexander: Toledo guy and he is a big sleeper of mine. Lots of sites have him ranked lower, but to me he could be a crazy pick in the second round.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Interesting guy.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostKinda intrigued by this feller in R2
https://x.com/nfldraftscout/status/1895291063998521458
NFL.com draft expert Lance Zierlein had this to say about Robinson heading into the NFL Combine:
"Bully with a roughshod playing style that forces blockers to match his physicality. Robinson is built for the trenches with the versatility to play in odd or even fronts. He's first into contact with his hands and mitigates average knee-bend with brute force in his upper half. He's powerful to set edges but lacks length to control and quickly shed NFL blockers. He's an effort rusher with active hands who can exploit a weak edge and thrive in gaming fronts but possesses average creativity. Robinson might not be a star, but his effort, strength and demeanor could make him a productive pro for years to come."I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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I wish I had more time or get an exit in this startup / but watched a few DL draft drills and it’s pretty easy to see top talent vs mid/late.
One DL that popped out was UCLA's Oledejo. Projected 1st rounder.The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
Vince Lombardi
"Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.
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Sites I've looked at have him available in 3-4 round. Seen as a developmental player. Had a good Senior Bowl though so maybe he's moving up.Originally posted by Fosco33 View PostI wish I had more time or get an exit in this startup / but watched a few DL draft drills and it’s pretty easy to see top talent vs mid/late.
One DL that popped out was UCLA's Oledejo. Projected 1st rounder.
I see Kiper has him as a 1st round pick though.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Could start to hear a lot about Jayden Higgins, WR, Iowa St. as a potential Packer pick.(6-4, 214) Ran a 4.47 40 and had a 39 inch vertical. Likely 2nd round pick.
Last edited by Joemailman; 03-01-2025, 07:35 PM.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Can he play the ball in the air? How's his route running?
Not a good release. Not a great change of direction. Passive blocker. Doesn't win deep.
Might be a later round kinda guy. Sounds kinda like Janis to me. Blanis.
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