Official 2025 Draft Thread

[Deputy Nutz]

Musgrave was hurt for most of last year. He is way more athletic and dynamic than Richard Rodgers.

As I look to tier out the majority of position players in this draft I can only base it on the 2025 draft class, so the WR tier 1 group is the best receivers of the 2025 class. Which currently I have no real idea who is part of that.

[run pMc]

Musgrave basically has played a season and been hurt a season. Too early to say anything other than his development has not been smooth.
Another thing to conside: TEs and LBs often look lost until the last year of their rookie contract.

As for tiers, I haven't looked closely at WRs but McMillian, Burden and Matthew Golden are in the R1 tier at the moment. Don't know anyone else is, and I don't know that I'd call any of them top 10 prospects.

Still haven't watched Jayden Higgins, but his profile (size/speed/productivity) has appeal. He's a Day2 guy for sure based on that.

[Deputy Nutz]

Right off the top of my head, Tier 1 of WR would look like McMillian, Ebueka, and possibly Golden. Burden has dropped according to most draft pundits, but that doesn't mean much

[Spaulding]

Wouldn't mind seeing Jaylin Noel of ISU in the 3rd. Loved his interview on XM Radio and although he played slot, he's not slow (4.39). Although he played the X mostly, seems like he could play Z as well, plus he's already a Packer with his drop ratio. Time to Jugg up, correct that along with Wicks and Reed.

[Fritz]

Nice juggs.

[run pMc]

Jaylin Noel is undersized, and I think they like bigger WRs so they can block from condensed formations or when running their screens and end arounds to Reed. Otherwise, he's a good interview, was productive and is a good athlete. I don't think GB is in the market for a slot WR before late Day 3 if at all.

His teammate the Higgins kid screams Packer prospect, whether he's there in R2 when they pick is unclear. They probably have to move into the top 45-50 to get him. It's not a great draft for big WRs who can run. Maybe MLF doubles down on running with Jacobs and that explains the Aaron Banks signing.

Either way, I'm expecting them to pick a DT who can take over for Kenny and play both positions inside as an all-around type who can stop the run and rush the passer decently. Haven't looked closely but that Walter Nolan kid comes to mind. Kenneth Grant looks fun but I wonder if Gute likes him.

Feels like yet another draft where I wish they had like 3 R2 picks instead of a R1 and R2, but it sounds like teams are looking to move down. Maybe that makes it cheap to move up for a player they love, with so many roster spots already locked up this might be the year for that.
Gute and Co. can find good players on draft day, they haven't found many great ones.

[Deputy Nutz]

I think this draft is relatively deep with defensive tackles, several different options in-terms of run stuffers, pass rushers, and a couple that can do both. I don't know if you have to reach in the first round to get a defensive tackle, especially if there is a dynamic edge rusher or a top end wide out. I know I mentioned this earlier but the wide receiver board will be really interesting how it falls on Day 1.

[Deputy Nutz]

Jaylin Noel is undersized, and I think they like bigger WRs so they can block from condensed formations or when running their screens and end arounds to Reed. Otherwise, he's a good interview, was productive and is a good athlete. I don't think GB is in the market for a slot WR before late Day 3 if at all.

His teammate the Higgins kid screams Packer prospect, whether he's there in R2 when they pick is unclear. They probably have to move into the top 45-50 to get him. It's not a great draft for big WRs who can run. Maybe MLF doubles down on running with Jacobs and that explains the Aaron Banks signing.

Either way, I'm expecting them to pick a DT who can take over for Kenny and play both positions inside as an all-around type who can stop the run and rush the passer decently. Haven't looked closely but that Walter Nolan kid comes to mind. Kenneth Grant looks fun but I wonder if Gute likes him.

Feels like yet another draft where I wish they had like 3 R2 picks instead of a R1 and R2, but it sounds like teams are looking to move down. Maybe that makes it cheap to move up for a player they love, with so many roster spots already locked up this might be the year for that.
Gute and Co. can find good players on draft day, they haven't found many great ones.

I really thought that the Packers were going in the same direction as you mentioned about bigger wide receivers, but their drafts in the last couple of years has sort of negated that beside Watson. Outside of Watson they have a couple of 6'2" receivers and that's it. They drafted Jaylen Reed and who is only 5'11" and 185 pounds. I agree that they need to focus on some bigger wide receivers with Watson out for a while and his field time could only be labeled as inconsistent.

Higgins has size and crazy speed at 6'4 and a 4.47, his blocking hasn't been labeled as a plus.
Tre Harris from Ole Miss is 6'2 205 and his forty time was average at 4.54 but his RAS is 9.04
Jack Bech is 6'1" 215 so there is some blocking size there with a bench of 19 reps but he didn't run the 40 at the combine.
Elic Ayomanor is 6'2" 206 and had a 4.44 forty time. He is a Stanford guy so I think he can block a bit.
Savion Williams is 6'4" 225 and had a sub 4.5 forty. The size and speed are there but I don't really trust him
Dont'e Thorton is 6'5" and flies. 4.3 forty at that size is ridiculous but I can't expect him to be a great blocker, his speed and size is a weapon to stretch defenses, but I don't trust his route running
Tory Holton is almost 6'2" and just under 200 lbs. He ran a sub 4.5 forty. I wouldn't call him well built and is athleticism made him capable of out playing lesser competition, needs to refine route running.
Da'Quan Felton 6'5" 215 has the size and a 4.5 forty gives you the speed you want. Can't say if he is a blocker or not, but isn't a polished route runner, and hands are less than great.

[Deputy Nutz]

All right week 3 of the Packers mock draft.

1/23:Emeka Egbuka, WR Ohio State: I think he is one of the top flight WRs in this draft. Ohio State has a pedigree for producing high end receivers and although he was overshadowed this year by the freshman sensation, he is still on the top of my board for pass catchers. He didn't work out at the combine which is going to be par for the course in the future especially for Ohio State WRs.

2/54: Maxwell Hairston, CB Kentucky: In the real draft I can't see him available at 54, but on the shitty mock site I use he is still there waiting to be a Packer. Probably the most athletically gifted CB in this draft. Hopefully his talent transitions to the NFL, he was extra handsy in college and you can't get away with that in the NFL.

3/88 Traded one spot down with the JAGs: Omar Norman-Lott, DT Tennessee: This would be a great pick up in the 3rd round. He is DT that has a good burst off the ball, aggressive and physical. He could grow into a 3 down defensive lineman in the NFL. Packers would be a good landing spot for him as it will give him time to learn behind 2 or 3 other veterans.

4/124: Tyler Baron, Edge, Miami: a little late to grab one of the premier pass rushers, but Baron offers the prototypical size and length for an edge rusher for the Packers. He has a 9.3 RAS so he will be athletic enough. Currently, he might be a pass rush specialist only

5/142 trade comp for the 87th pick to the JAGs: Charles Grant, OL William & Mary: super athletic offensive lineman that could end up playing anywhere on the offensive line besides Center. Small school guy, landing in Green Bay will give him time to adjust to the NFL.

6/198: Nick Martin, OLB Oklahoma State: Hybrid player at OSU, he can set the edge or play off the ball. good size and athleticism that has the flexibility that will be an added addition to the Packers defense.

7/237: Isaiah Neyor, WR Nebraska: 6'4 220 wide receiver that can run a 4.4, RAS score of 10. Big and a super athlete is a perfect selection in the 7th round. Needs to work on his route running and game speed but can catch the ball away from his body and creates a huge mismatch because of his expansive catch radius.

7/250: O'Donnell Fortune, CB South Carolina: Not sure if he drops even close to this far. Although there are several sites that have him ranked all over the place. He didn't run at the combine but his 32" vertical is that of a high school kid. His film shows a strong instincts when he keeps his eyes to the action. More of a zone corner that can work off the QB versus just playing man against more athletic receivers.

[jklowan]

All right week 3 of the Packers mock draft.

1/23:Emeka Egbuka, WR Ohio State: I think he is one of the top flight WRs in this draft. Ohio State has a pedigree for producing high end receivers and although he was overshadowed this year by the freshman sensation, he is still on the top of my board for pass catchers. He didn't work out at the combine which is going to be par for the course in the future especially for Ohio State WRs.

2/54: Maxwell Hairston, CB Kentucky: In the real draft I can't see him available at 54, but on the shitty mock site I use he is still there waiting to be a Packer. Probably the most athletically gifted CB in this draft. Hopefully his talent transitions to the NFL, he was extra handsy in college and you can't get away with that in the NFL.

3/88 Traded one spot down with the JAGs: Omar Norman-Lott, DT Tennessee: This would be a great pick up in the 3rd round. He is DT that has a good burst off the ball, aggressive and physical. He could grow into a 3 down defensive lineman in the NFL. Packers would be a good landing spot for him as it will give him time to learn behind 2 or 3 other veterans.

4/124: Tyler Baron, Edge, Miami: a little late to grab one of the premier pass rushers, but Baron offers the prototypical size and length for an edge rusher for the Packers. He has a 9.3 RAS so he will be athletic enough. Currently, he might be a pass rush specialist only

5/142 trade comp for the 87th pick to the JAGs: Charles Grant, OL William & Mary: super athletic offensive lineman that could end up playing anywhere on the offensive line besides Center. Small school guy, landing in Green Bay will give him time to adjust to the NFL.

6/198: Nick Martin, OLB Oklahoma State: Hybrid player at OSU, he can set the edge or play off the ball. good size and athleticism that has the flexibility that will be an added addition to the Packers defense.

7/237: Isaiah Neyor, WR Nebraska: 6'4 220 wide receiver that can run a 4.4, RAS score of 10. Big and a super athlete is a perfect selection in the 7th round. Needs to work on his route running and game speed but can catch the ball away from his body and creates a huge mismatch because of his expansive catch radius.

7/250: O'Donnell Fortune, CB South Carolina: Not sure if he drops even close to this far. Although there are several sites that have him ranked all over the place. He didn't run at the combine but his 32" vertical is that of a high school kid. His film shows a strong instincts when he keeps his eyes to the action. More of a zone corner that can work off the QB versus just playing man against more athletic receivers.

I am really hoping the Pearce kid from Tenn falls, that is my draft crush

[Joemailman]

Packer picks from Chad Reuter's 4 round mock draft: https://www.nfl.com/news/four-round-...in-first-round

1 (23) Matthew Golden Texas · WR

2 (54) Nic Scourton Texas A&M · Edge

3 (87) Nohl Williams California · CB

4 (124) Omarr Norman-Lott Tennessee · DT

[run pMc]

Packer types at WR tend to go 6'1" 205# or thereabouts. Big enough to hold up run blocking and also as big or bigger than most CBs, plus a bigger catch radius than a 5'10" guy. 6'2" is plenty big to play outside. Doubs and Wicks could do it, but neither are burners and they each had struggles last year.

Is this a case of the pendulum after 2023 swung too optimistic and now we're too pessimistic? These are players in Year 3 or in Doubs' case a contract year, I'd be very disappointed if there wasn't internal development.
Watson's injury, the WR FA market, and the upcoming contract situations all tell me Gute almost has to draft a WR (possibly two).

[run pMc]

This is a decent draft simulator, if you ignore trades.

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-draft-simulator

The site itself takes all the draft boards out there and average/aggregates them, so you get an idea of where players are ranked overall by draftniks and media types (whatever that's worth). I like it for that reason, some boards are way higher on player X and it can smooth that variability out.

[SudsMcBucky]

This is a decent draft simulator, if you ignore trades.

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-draft-simulator

The site itself takes all the draft boards out there and average/aggregates them, so you get an idea of where players are ranked overall by draftniks and media types (whatever that's worth). I like it for that reason, some boards are way higher on player X and it can smooth that variability out.

That's the one I like to use the most, too.

[Fritz]

I am really hoping the Pearce kid from Tenn falls, that is my draft crush

Read an ACME article about him; sounds like he's kind of a smallish one-trick pony.