DEAR GUTEBAG=DRAFT A WR IN ROUND ONE===State of the WR Room

[Bretsky]

Let me be the first to say, I don't give a rats ass if we are the youngest team in the NFL. If we're loaded with limited upside players who are youthful, well who cares. I want FIELD TILTERS.

We just don't seem to have any at WR. One year ago, I thought this WR room was pretty well set. Wicks or Reed would become the number one, Watson was the mega talented wild card, and Doubbs brought stability, although his upside seemed limited.

Now, I think the REALTY BITES. Wicks is not going to be a Number One, and neither is Reed. Doubbs is what he is. Decent route runner, great hands, fundamentally solid but just not loaded with talent. He's the Joe Krabenhoft of our Wide Receiver room...decent at all...great at nothing
And Watson, well, dude is loaded with talent, but considering we gave up two second round draft picks to move up for him, well....it was not a good move by Gutebag.

MY BIG QUESTION....and this is an indictment on Gutebag's youth philosphy....

HOW MANY TEAMS HAVE 2 WR's better than our numbers one, or any WR on our roster ???

wihout digging hard, I would start with

Minnesota, Detroit, probably Chicago, Cincinati, Houston, the Jets, and maybe the Rams If you think Kopp is a top WR. That's 6 or7 teams to start I think, Am I off base, or misisng anybody ?

Should we add Seattle...others ?

We NEED a #1 WR; get it done, Gutebag

[th87]

Gute kind of sucks in the first round, so that's something to consider.

Jaire (but could've had Derwin James), Gary, and Love are the only maybe impact players.

Other than them, it's Savage, Stokes, Walker, Wyatt, LVN, Morgan. JAGs so far.

[sharpe1027]

I heard Davante might be looking for a new home.

[Deputy Nutz]

Right now the value for receivers might be in the second round or even the 3rd round. Seems like the common theme right now is to blame a receiver room for not having a number 1 type receiver, and I will agree with injuries this season guys that most thought would take the next step into the #1 receiver echelon didn't materialize. My struggles in watching the passing game is open receivers not getting the ball thrown to them on a regular basis.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Right now the value for receivers might be in the second round or even the 3rd round. Seems like the common theme right now is to blame a receiver room for not having a number 1 type receiver, and I will agree with injuries this season guys that most thought would take the next step into the #1 receiver echelon didn't materialize. My struggles in watching the passing game is open receivers not getting the ball thrown to them on a regular basis.

Equals lack of vision by Love.

[Joemailman]

I have noticed that when flushed from the pocket, he too often ends up throwing a low percentage deep pass downfield. Whether that is a lack of vision or an overemphasis on hitting the big play, I'm not sure.

[call_me_ishmael]

I think they have too many holes to do this unless there is a very good player. They need a DL, 2-3 CB, an OL, and a WR. Best available player IMO.

[Joemailman]

I think they have too many holes to do this unless there is a very good player. They need a DL, 2-3 CB, an OL, and a WR. Best available player IMO.

They do have some cap room (51-63 million, depending on source), so they may be able to fill some needs before the draft happens.

[Deputy Nutz]

Holes? I don't see them having holes, Their run defense was much improved this year, that's what you ask of your DTs. Slayton and Clark. Clark just makes so much money at this point and it goes through 2027. Wyatt has demonstrated in his 3rd year to have some juice rushing the passer, and playing decent 3 tech against the run.

I do see tremendous gaps at Cornerback. I thought they needed to address it last year in the draft instead they went heavy on safety which they also needed.

The offensive line does need improvement, but you drafted some guys late last year that have a decent ceiling. Remember we also used a first round pick on Morgan who was injured for most of the year. I hate drafting linemen early.


They certainly would be foolish to draft another edge rusher early, obviously they like a lot of their younger guys because they let Preston Smith go. So Gute will probably trade up draft one.

So I do agree in the BPA model, but the Packers are sort of desperate for a Corner. There will be at least 3 with first round grades probably closer to 5.

[call_me_ishmael]

I'm gonna assume Morgan is a bust since he's shown nothing so far.

If they drafted CB in first and second round, I'd be overjoyed with them loading up on OL in 3, 4, 5. Then go BPA in the other rounds. They need either a starting or backup center, and RG is just not good enough. Is Zach Tom still a tackle, or should we just move him to center and let him have a 10 year HOF career there and call it good? He's too small to be a tackle and he got exposed last night.

[Joemailman]

I'm gonna assume Morgan is a bust since he's shown nothing so far.

If they drafted CB in first and second round, I'd be overjoyed with them loading up on OL in 3, 4, 5. Then go BPA in the other rounds. They need either a starting or backup center, and RG is just not good enough. Is Zach Tom still a tackle, or should we just move him to center and let him have a 10 year HOF career there and call it good? He's too small to be a tackle and he got exposed last night.

Morgan was probably winning the starting RG position when he got hurt. Calling him a bust at this point doesn't make sense. I guess this is Overreaction Monday.

[Sparkey]

Let me be the first to say, I don't give a rats ass if we are the youngest team in the NFL. If we're loaded with limited upside players who are youthful, well who cares. I want FIELD TILTERS.

We just don't seem to have any at WR. One year ago, I thought this WR room was pretty well set. Wicks or Reed would become the number one, Watson was the mega talented wild card, and Doubbs brought stability, although his upside seemed limited.

Now, I think the REALTY BITES. Wicks is not going to be a Number One, and neither is Reed. Doubbs is what he is. Decent route runner, great hands, fundamentally solid but just not loaded with talent. He's the Joe Krabenhoft of our Wide Receiver room...decent at all...great at nothing
And Watson, well, dude is loaded with talent, but considering we gave up two second round draft picks to move up for him, well....it was not a good move by Gutebag.

MY BIG QUESTION....and this is an indictment on Gutebag's youth philosphy....

HOW MANY TEAMS HAVE 2 WR's better than our numbers one, or any WR on our roster ???

wihout digging hard, I would start with

Minnesota, Detroit, probably Chicago, Cincinati, Houston, the Jets, and maybe the Rams If you think Kopp is a top WR. That's 6 or7 teams to start I think, Am I off base, or misisng anybody ?

Should we add Seattle...others ?

We NEED a #1 WR; get it done, Gutebag

Doubs isn't mutch better than Wicks at the percentage of drops per target.

Tee Higgins would help

[Deputy Nutz]

Morgan isn't a bust, yet. He was drafted with leg problems and they are still an issue.

Tom is one of the better ranked right tackles in the NFL by PFF. I don't exactly see it.

Rasheed Walker is average, Rhyan is average, and Myers is average. They could all be replaced at some point.

[Bretsky]

Morgan was probably winning the starting RG position when he got hurt. Calling him a bust at this point doesn't make sense. I guess this is Overreaction Monday.

Morgan was kinda a disappointment even when he did play. They were working him in slowly hoping he'd improve. Not a bust, but disappointing would be fair.

[Bretsky]

If you want to give our 55 Million Dollar Man a shot go get a Dam NUMBER ONE WR. It's been a while since we drafted Sherling Sharpe in round 1