2025 NFL Draft Day 2

[call_me_ishmael]

There have been some really odd choice in this draft. Why not get a DL in a great DL draft? Two receivers in a weak WR draft? Very odd.

I just got back from traveling for work. Bummed I didn't make it to GB.

[sharpe1027]

Yes. Doubs is at risk of being done after the next hit. More importantly, none of the WRs looked great last year.

[MadtownPacker]

Every time I see that asshole in the sombrero I think it's Mad.


Jerry Kramer is a cripple but he can still talk

Savion Williams, another receiver. I am a bit confused, maybe Gute doesn't trust himself to take defensive players in the draft.

Hah! I kept wishing it was cuz that mofo had a great seat.

[Patler]

I think MLF can make good use out of someone like Williams.

I don't know, he hasn't figured out how to use Watson game in and game out. Are Watson and Williams really much different?

[sharpe1027]

I don't know, he hasn't figured out how to use Watson game in and game out. Are Watson and Williams really much different?

Williams is more of a RB/WR hybrid. Watson is a WR with top end speed and size. I don't see them as the same.

Watson had a stretch early where he was looking like he might put it all together. Since then he was injured or between injuries.

Look at how he utilized Reed. We'll see.

[MadtownPacker]

I don't know, he hasn't figured out how to use Watson game in and game out. Are Watson and Williams really much different?

If he can avoid injury then a big hell yes.

[Patler]

Williams is more of a RB/WR hybrid. Watson is a WR with top end speed and size. I don't see them as the same.

Watson had a stretch early where he was looking like he might put it all together. Since then he was injured or between injuries.

Look at how he utilized Reed. We'll see.

Year 1 Watson looked like he was destined for a hybrid role that would include some carries one way or another. He had a couple TDs and 80 yards on seven carries in a restricted role. Year 2 was sort of lost, but last year he was mostly healthy all year until the knee, yet GB couldn't seem to find a way to involve him much at all.

Use of Reed? Kind of "meh" in my opinion.

I'm not sure LaF is the creative offensive genius we hoped for. I look at Watson and even Kraft seemingly forgotten at times, and Wickes getting more attention than he earned. Sometimes there doesn't seem to be a plan....

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Obviously this is a pretty historic free fall for an athlete that at the moment of this post has not had any criminal or civil issues. Sanders fall from grace is damn near an NFL blackball job. Kiper is desperate to call it what it is, the NFL is locking the gates to Sanders in this draft. My assumption is that Sanders at this point might be calling all teams telling them not to draft him and that he will sign somewhere as a free agent.

Hard to feel bad for the young un. Trust fund kid. Raked in millions in NIL.

That being said, Young Shed is a poor man’s Butte. Watch the films. Plays a lot like Butte. I hope the Packers draft the dude. He’ll end up being a Cowfucker.

[Teamcheez1]

Upgrading at several positions:

Doubs, Watson, and Walker are being replaced.
Morgan will replace either Rhyan or Walker depending on Belt.

Need some picks on the defensive side of the ball.

[sharpe1027]

Year 1 Watson looked like he was destined for a hybrid role that would include some carries one way or another. He had a couple TDs and 80 yards on seven carries in a restricted role. Year 2 was sort of lost, but last year he was mostly healthy all year until the knee, yet GB couldn't seem to find a way to involve him much at all.

Use of Reed? Kind of "meh" in my opinion.

I'm not sure LaF is the creative offensive genius we hoped for. I look at Watson and even Kraft seemingly forgotten at times, and Wickes getting more attention than he earned. Sometimes there doesn't seem to be a plan....

I disagree on Watson. He had some end around early on, but that's not a hybrid role. He never lined up in the back field. He never ran wildcat. Watson didn't look the same last year. I don't think it was just play calls and schemes.

He got a lot out of Reed up until this year.

I agree MLF isn't perfect, but he game planned well for Malik Willis as another example. I think they want to lean on the run even more next year. Somewhat ironically picking up the two WRs actually makes sense in that context. They need someone to take advantage of loaded boxes and man coverage. They can use a hybrid player to run or pass depending on what the defense shows, and keep them off balance.

You might be right, maybe MLF won't use him well. Ultimately it's up to the player to make plays and Williams may just not be very good. If he's good though, I have confidence they'll get him the ball in many different situations.

[Jaire]

I don't know, he hasn't figured out how to use Watson game in and game out. Are Watson and Williams really much different?

Williams is a YAC player. Kraft is the only one we got. I was always concerned whenever Reed or Watson took a sweep. That is not a concern with Williams. I see the thinking here. They are trying to get bigger/tougher.

Gute mentioned Lang/Sitton. Belton was a pancake king; maybe he has some of the much needed nasty for that room

[Patler]

Gute mentioned Lang/Sitton. Belton was a pancake king; maybe he has some of the much needed nasty for that room

Hope so, but I have read a lot of the exact opposite about him, that he plays without a nasty streak or the fire needed to be the physically dominant player his size could make him. One scout said he plays like the kid who while growing up was much bigger than all his friends and was constantly admonished to be careful to not hurt any of them. He said that is something you can't coach out of players as adults.

[Patler]

I agree MLF isn't perfect, but he game planned well for Malik Willis as another example.

Can't disagree with that at all. Credit to both MLF and Malik Willis on those performances. Just outstanding, and unexpected.

[run pMc]

The Edge depth is still pretty good. Was surprised at how fast the top DT prospects went. I think they go defense Day 2 and worry about OL and depth on Day 3.

Then again, they never do what I think they will.

I have no idea what they are doing lol

[run pMc]

Taking Belton I can sorta see, I thought there were a lot of good players on D they could have taken instead. Rasheed Walker is gone after this year. I don't know what the plan is for Morgan though. Train him to be all over backup and get Belton up to speed at backup swing tackle and eventually be LT/ Move him to RT and move Tom over? Day 1/2 picks need to play early to pay off for teams, generally. Other interesting thing: GB's definitely changing their OL to be bigger. Belton is much heavier than what they go for. Seems like with Jacobs and abigger OL they are moving away from zone or at least outside zone to more power/gap stuff.

Do not like Savion Williams in R3 considering who else was there. Dude is a super athlete -- he's basically Corderelle Patterson 2.0 -- but he has atrocious hands and is raw as sushi. Cue the old J-Mike jokes about dropping his keys in the parking lot.

Gotta say, not loviing this draft, my hopes for it to change are dwindling. Then again, I'm a fan and not a personnel pro... I sure hope Gute knows what he's doing, because I don't see how they've improved their pass rush or defense in general yet.