Get at least a 2nd Rounder for him.
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No F-ng way.Originally posted by retailguyI think we agree on this one, just expressed it differently I guess. I think Walker is close to being labeled "T.O. jr."
Guy didn't even hold-out last training camp, you may recall.
I think people around the league view this situation a bit differently than Packer fans. Brett Favre interjecting himself into that contract dispute was the start of a deep bitterness. Walker has not been disruptive in his years at GB. Walker will get his change of scenery.
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Lelie is all right, but he can't run a route to save his life. He can run simple post patterns and flag routes, but who can't? He is a tall target that can get down field. Just expect a lot of Cory Bradford like plays.
I would still take Lelie, and a first day pick, just to be done with Walker. Simply put it is bad for business.
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It has been rumored that Lelie wants out of Denver and to compete for a #1 position somewhere. With the Walker situation and if the Pack trade for Lelie and a 1st day pick, is Lelie better than Driver?Originally posted by NutzLelie is all right, but he can't run a route to save his life. He can run simple post patterns and flag routes, but who can't? He is a tall target that can get down field. Just expect a lot of Cory Bradford like plays.
I would still take Lelie, and a first day pick, just to be done with Walker. Simply put it is bad for business.
Lelie matched Rod Smith for TDs in '04 (7) and had a better yrd/catch (20.1 vs 14.5) and gave up only 60 yrs on -15 catches! In '05, Lelie only had 1 TD (vs Smith's 6) and 42 rec for 18.3 avg (vs Smith's 85 and 13.0). He's been up with Rod Smith since '02 - if he comes to GB with Driver - who's better and why?
Lelie's Stats...
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| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 2002 den | 16 | 4 40 10.0 0 | 35 525 15.0 2 |
| 2003 den | 16 | 8 43 5.4 0 | 37 628 17.0 2 |
| 2004 den | 16 | 3 5 1.7 0 | 54 1084 20.1 7 |
| 2005 den | 16 | 5 84 16.8 0 | 42 770 18.3 1 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 64 | 20 172 8.6 0 | 168 3007 17.9 12 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
Driver's stats....
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| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1999 gnb | 5 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 3 31 10.3 1 |
| 2000 gnb | 16 | 1 4 4.0 0 | 21 322 15.3 1 |
| 2001 gnb | 13 | 3 38 12.7 1 | 13 167 12.8 1 |
| 2002 gnb | 16 | 8 70 8.8 0 | 70 1064 15.2 9 |
| 2003 gnb | 15 | 5 51 10.2 0 | 52 621 11.9 2 |
| 2004 gnb | 16 | 3 4 1.3 0 | 84 1208 14.4 9 |
| 2005 gnb | 16 | 2 13 6.5 0 | 86 1221 14.2 5 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 97 | 22 180 8.2 1 | 329 4634 14.1 28 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
Driver has had better stats than Rod Smith in TDs and just slightly with Avg and Rec. I think Lelie has more upside given his faster start (vs Driver) playing with a worse QB (Favre makes his recievers better!).The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
Vince Lombardi
"Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.
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