Sharper's Take

[packers11]

Likeable personality or not, Sharper went to the Pro Bowl last year.

Compare his stats to Woodson's and TT's pledge that he is not going to overpay for free agents rings pretty hollow.


Sharper in 10 years:

137 games 518.0 tackles 149 assists 6 sacks 45 ints 7 TDS

Woodson in 9 years:

108 games 394.0 tackles 74 assists 5.5 sacks 17 ints 2 TDS

Yes he did go, but the probowl is all about stats.... Sure he got 10 or so INTS but how many games did he blow his coverage??? Hes a DECENT player outside of clutch moments.. I am not hating on him, im just not SAD that we did release him.... Those two plays in the playoffs were enough, and just to think we were so close to the superbowl

[MadtownPacker]

yea... I kept telling myself that too.... O WAIT FLASHBACK....
4th and 25... TO catch ENDZONE TD.. Nice try on the hit Sharper...
4th and 26... Freddie Mitchell... OH LETS PLAY A LITTLE FARTHER BACK...
Third time would be the charm....
4th and 27.... Packers is Superbowl... TD.. Sharper tripped on his shoe laces... Packers lose game....(oh wait we avoided the third one)

Sharper is a good player... But with one BIG play left, do I want him on the field???? HELL NO!!!!!

Preach that shizz Packers11!!!

Thanks to sharper for making sure the Packers are on the crap end of NFL Films highlights forever!!

[HarveyWallbangers]

Comparing the stats of a corner to the stats of a safety is pretty meaningless. A safety should have "more stats." Oftentimes, the best corners don't get any stats. Rarely do you find a really good safety who doesn't get good stats.

[pbmax]

Likeable personality or not, Sharper went to the Pro Bowl last year.

Compare his stats to Woodson's and TT's pledge that he is not going to overpay for free agents rings pretty hollow.


Sharper in 10 years:

137 games 518.0 tackles 149 assists 6 sacks 45 ints 7 TDS

Woodson in 9 years:

108 games 394.0 tackles 74 assists 5.5 sacks 17 ints 2 TDS

Apples to oranges, they play two different positions and will compile different stats even if both were successful.

Woodson is on a year to year deal, minimum cap hit to release him at any point. Sharper's deal was not so friendly.

And the Pro Bowl is nice, but its not the entire story. Name recognition goes a long way in that voting.

[mission]

Woodson is on a year to year deal, minimum cap hit to release him at any point.

that's good to know... didnt know that.






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[run pMc]

You forgot about the "highlight" where Ed McCaffrey carried Sharper for about 10 yards before shrugging him off en route to scoring.

I think that was the wake up call for a maddeningly inconsistent Sharper.

He's a smart guy & an athletic player, but seems to try to be flashy and gambles a lot.

[Rastak]

You forgot about the "highlight" where Ed McCaffrey carried Sharper for about 10 yards before shrugging him off en route to scoring.

I think that was the wake up call for a maddeningly inconsistent Sharper.

He's a smart guy & an athletic player, but seems to try to be flashy and gambles a lot.

I liked the more recent hit on Santana Moss saving a TD myself....

[Patler]

Sharper is a good player, but less consistent than some top safeties in both his highs and lows. He makes both very, very good plays and plays that make you wonder why "Pro Bowl" is associated with his name. All in all he would be an asset to most teams, certainly is for the Vikings and would be for the Packers.

[RashanGary]

Imagine how many picks he would have had if he had a pass rush to help him.

[Rastak]

Imagine how many picks he would have had if he had a pass rush to help him.

Pass rush was bad in the first half but they got in Delomme's face in the second half...Vikes are sitting at #7 in total defense right now and Sharpers out there and a key piece of that.

[RashanGary]

I'm talkign about during hsi prime. I think Sharper is a great ball hawking saftey. He would have looked even better through his best years with a good front 4.

I think he looks better in MInn because of it. Plus, I think he up'd his effort and conditioning because of being cut. Great players have pride.

He'd a damn good one. I'd rahter have him than Woodson hands down.

[Rastak]

I'm talkign about during hsi prime. I think Sharper is a great ball hawking saftey. He would have looked even better through his best years with a good front 4.

I think he looks better in MInn because of it. Plus, I think he up'd his effort and conditioning because of being cut. Great players have pride.

He'd a damn good one. I'd rahter have him than Woodson hands down.

Oh, I see your point now.

[Patler]

I'm talkign about during hsi prime. I think Sharper is a great ball hawking saftey. He would have looked even better through his best years with a good front 4.

I think he looks better in MInn because of it. Plus, I think he up'd his effort and conditioning because of being cut. Great players have pride.

He'd a damn good one. I'd rahter have him than Woodson hands down.

I have to disagree a bit with that. From 1998 through 2002, covering Sharper's first 5 seasons as a starter, the Packers had a decent pass rush, with 213 sacks in the five year period, averaging almost 43 per season. The pass rush problems are more recent. As recently as 2001 they were 3rd in the league in total sacks. They also won a lot of games in that time period, putting opponents in "must pass" situations that played into Sharper getting interceptions.

[RashanGary]

Damn it Pater, just let my poor memory roll here

He was and still is a damn good player. I wonder where the Packers would be with McKenzie, Sharper, Walker and Wahle. We had 30 mil. We could have streched it.

It's going to take a while to get players that good in their primes or just exiting them. We had some good teams, it just makes you realize how far it's fallen.

I do think thompson is building it the right way, the slow way. Damn it though, it makes you remember the competitive days and have a little sadness that it's not happening for us right now. Favre is the big loser here, but that is antoher topic.

I can always look at Hawk, Spitz, Jennings, Collins and Rodgers and see a brighter future. Sometimes instant gratification is the ultimate though. Oh well, they're fun to follow either way. I enjoy this season as much as I do the winnign ones. I just like to anylize the game and I odn't have the time to anylize more than one team.

[Patler]

He was and still is a damn good player. I wonder where the Packers would be with McKenzie, Sharper, Walker and Wahle. We had 30 mil. We could have streched it.

For your own mental health, don't think of losing Wahle, Sharper and Rivera in 2005 and the 30 million cap space in 2006 in the same thought. It only causes frustration. There was a huge bottleneck, the 2005 cap, that stood between the players in 2004 and the salary cap in 2006. I'm sure if the contracts due in 2005 had been due this year instead, some things would have been different.

McKenzie's situation I've never quite understood. I don't really understand why he suddenly wanted out so badly, but with the position he took there wasn't much that could be done.

Walker is also a bit odd. Perhaps too much TO influence. I will always feel that had he not been injured, at some point GB would have tried to work out an extension toward the end of 2005. Once the season was over, Walker seemed to take a McKenzie stance, and again the Packers did not have much choice. At least TT parlayed the situation into a bunch of draft picks.

In todays NFL its not who you lose, but who you have ready to step in to replace them, and preferably it will be someone already on the roster. Every team loses players they would prefer to keep if they could. The salary cap virtually requires it. If you aren't prepared for it, and have to scramble in the off season to find replacements, you won't always be able to do it. That was Sherman's failure with the guards. He knew for several years that both would have "decision" points in 2005, but he had no one on the roster to replace either one, and he did not work out anything with either in advance of it. Basically, one expired contract (Rivera) and two contracts with cap crippling bonuses (Wahle and Sharper) were dumped in TT's lap with very little time and no cap space to do anything about it.