Move Carroll to Safety?

[Patler]

I never thought I would read fans lamenting the loss of Mark Roman and Grey Ruegamer. We really need something better to discuss than this!

A year ago most couldn't show Roman the door fast enough. Now its a "mistake" that he is gone. In reality Roman is one of the interchangeable parts that fill NFL rosters. It really doesn't matter which one you have. He provided experience, not much more. Some provide potential, some speed, some great special teams play, etc. etc, etc,

If you have concerns about Roman being gone you are overthinking the make-up of a roster way, way too much.

I wouldn't mind if he was here. I don't care that he is gone. It doesn't make a difference.

Losing Underwood was much more significant. He was past his rookie year, was physical and was the leading ST tackler. He contributed in a number of ways.

[Bretsky]

Good points Patler,

Roman is probably as good as some of our roster players. But as you noted he is interchangeable so TT tries to fill his spot with players he thinks may develop more. Sure Roman is probably better than a couple, but Mark Roman talent is not hard to replace.

B

[red]

no, the less time grabby McGee is on the field the better IMO. he can't cover a guy without grabbing him, he's a liability every time he's on the field.

i agree with GBM, his next move sould be on the next plane out of town.

[Partial]

Good points Patler,

Roman is probably as good as some of our roster players. But as you noted he is interchangeable so TT tries to fill his spot with players he thinks may develop more. Sure Roman is probably better than a couple, but Mark Roman talent is not hard to replace.

B

We all agree its not hard to replace, its the fact that TT didn't do that that bothers us.

[Patler]

Good points Patler,

Roman is probably as good as some of our roster players. But as you noted he is interchangeable so TT tries to fill his spot with players he thinks may develop more. Sure Roman is probably better than a couple, but Mark Roman talent is not hard to replace.

B

We all agree its not hard to replace, its the fact that TT didn't do that that bothers us.

Didn't replace Roman? Your kidding, right?

[Partial]

Good points Patler,

Roman is probably as good as some of our roster players. But as you noted he is interchangeable so TT tries to fill his spot with players he thinks may develop more. Sure Roman is probably better than a couple, but Mark Roman talent is not hard to replace.

B

We all agree its not hard to replace, its the fact that TT didn't do that that bothers us.

Didn't replace Roman? Your kidding, right?

No, I am dead serious. He could have been kept for depth as we're arguing, and others are saying he's easily replaceable move on. Well, I see absolutely ZERO depth behind the starting safeties. I would say TT did an awful job of addressing that. How can anyone possibly argue otherwise?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Roman is probably as good as some of our roster players. But as you noted he is interchangeable so TT tries to fill his spot with players he thinks may develop more. Sure Roman is probably better than a couple, but Mark Roman talent is not hard to replace.

Bretsky, you've been critical of Thompson for not picking up a vet guard. Why didn't he keep Ruegamer? Rueg was a tough player.

They have a real fish for the 4th safety.

It's true that I am nit-picking.

[b bulldog]

Woodson to S would be the better move imo.

[MateoInMex]

I am trying to sum up in two words Ahmad Carroll...


CARROLL SUCKS!!!

Trade him for a new set of Packer cheerleaders....anything.. blazing speed...yet as Deputy Nutz stated on Wonderwoman Carroll's hold against the Saints..HE ARM-BARRED THE RECEIVER!

This guy is dead wood...please someone in the GB organization make WONDERWOMAN GO AWAY! Maybe when he skips offseason workouts in GB, he can sport a golden lasso in the boxing ring.

[Patler]

No, I am dead serious. He could have been kept for depth as we're arguing, and others are saying he's easily replaceable move on. Well, I see absolutely ZERO depth behind the starting safeties. I would say TT did an awful job of addressing that. How can anyone possibly argue otherwise?

He released Roman in the initial TC cutdown to get to 83, as I recall. They had a glut in the defensive backfield, where typically they work safeties in pairs. They had 7 safeties at the time, including Manual, Collins and Underwood, all of whom were ahead of Roman in their minds. Culver was going to be in camp as a drafted rookie they needed to see. Bigby did well in NFLE and looked to provide value on ST before he was injured. Both Bigby and Boger were eligible for the practice squad, so merited a look in training camp as possible players to work with for a year.

Roman offered nothing and was a logical cut at the time. Even now, with Underwood and Bigby on IR, I'm not sure that Culver is a major step back from Roman, and at least provides a possibility of future development.

[Partial]

No, I am dead serious. He could have been kept for depth as we're arguing, and others are saying he's easily replaceable move on. Well, I see absolutely ZERO depth behind the starting safeties. I would say TT did an awful job of addressing that. How can anyone possibly argue otherwise?

He released Roman in the initial TC cutdown to get to 83, as I recall. They had a glut in the defensive backfield, where typically they work safeties in pairs. They had 7 safeties at the time, including Manual, Collins and Underwood, all of whom were ahead of Roman in their minds. Culver was going to be in camp as a drafted rookie they needed to see. Bigby did well in NFLE and looked to provide value on ST before he was injured. Both Bigby and Boger were eligible for the practice squad, so merited a look in training camp as possible players to work with for a year.

Roman offered nothing and was a logical cut at the time. Even now, with Underwood and Bigby on IR, I'm not sure that Culver is a major step back from Roman, and at least provides a possibility of future development.

Ok, and what happens if two safeties get hurt now? Roman didn't have 10 years left on his contract and it wasn't a big money deal. If those players were eligible for the practice squad any way, why not let them all compete with a veteran and make them raise their game up to his level, meanwhile soaking up his wisdom and learning how to prepare for NFL life from a veteran?

[MJZiggy]

Because you can only have 8 guys on the practice squad and none of them can be vets with more than 2 seasons I believe.

[Patler]

Because you can only have 8 guys on the practice squad and none of them can be vets with more than 2 seasons I believe.

That, and what I was trying to point out earlier, that when he was released, there were reasons to keep the other 6 safeties in camp. They felt they had too many safeties on the roster to work with effectively in camp, so one had to go and Roman gave them no real reason to keep him.

[Patler]

I also forgot to mention that Bigby was a "freebie" on the roster. Having been in NFLE he did not count toward the maximum number allowed. So if they wanted only 6 safeties in camp, it really came down to releasing either Roman or Boger.

[Partial]

Because you can only have 8 guys on the practice squad and none of them can be vets with more than 2 seasons I believe.

That, and what I was trying to point out earlier, that when he was released, there were reasons to keep the other 6 safeties in camp. They felt they had too many safeties on the roster to work with effectively in camp, so one had to go and Roman gave them no real reason to keep him.

except that it would be a better team until the end of romans contract than it would be without him. If they are just going to sign an undrafted free agent with "potential", they could do that when his contract runs out. There was no sense in not keeping him on the team in a back-up role.