2007 mock draft

[Tyrone Bigguns]

You have to build your team through the line. Joe Thomas would be a nice fit with his mobility and athleticism.

We have Clifton and Tauscher; no need to spend a top 10 pick in a backup

It is pretty obvious that at this juncture Clifton is not a cut blocking type of lineman. Can he get better is the question.

We could definitely trade him and get good value for him. We could also draft Thomas and move Tauscher to the inside if Cliffy is working out. That would solidify the line. Assumption made that Thomas works as a cut blocking lineman as well, but he is plenty athletic.

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I think an argument could be made that how many players are drafted at each position year to year is directly related to the talent level at that position; I don't think certain positions get overvalued and thus end up consistently thrown too high into round one.

You put grades on players; if there is suppose to be an overload of TE's one year they get drafted high. Ditto for the other positions.

I recall 2001 as a WR heavy year. That was the year we drafted the Fraud over Chambers. There were about nine WR's drafted in the first two rounds. Not typical, but it was a strong year for WR's.
This year more TE's were drafted at the top than normal.

If there are five RB's with a first round grade next year then they'll get drafted high.

When I hear you don't need to draft a RB high I think of the Denver mentality. But keep in mind they've had a successful OL for many many years now. Most teams do not have that luxury. We certainly do not.

I'm going off my unreliable memory here, but one valid thing to consider is how many of the starting HB's in the NFL are first round picks now. In looking at them it appears most of the Stud's are first round picks. On a sidenote I have no recollection where some of the missing backs like Rudi Johnson, Tike Barber, and Warrich Dunn were picked. I want to say the latter two were top 2 rounds, but I'm not sure.


Larry Johnson
Shawn Alexander
LaDanion Tomlinson
Stephen Jackson
Julius Jones
Fred Taylor
Willis McGahee
Lawrence Moroney
Corey Dillon
Ronnie Brown
Jamal Lewis
Joseph Addai
Reggie Bush
Duece McCalister
Cadillac Williams

And that's nearly half the starting halfbacks in the NFL

I'd have no problem if TT drafted a stud RB in round one as long as he was the best player on the board at the time of selection.


B

I didn't say first round. I said top 10. My point is that late first round or 2/3 round backs turn out great. Check my list.

LJ was the 27th pick. Alexander was 19th. Jackson was 24th. Jones was a second rounder. Magahee was 23rd. Maroney was 21. Addai was 30th. Dillon was a second rounder. Deuce was 23rd.

I think you have made my point for me. We could easily trade a top 3 pick for a 8-12 first and a lower pick that gets us a good/great back.

Doesn't it really depend on the year? This year you could get a stud LB in the second. That never happens. It was a deep draft. It is possible some of those gems came from deep drafts? Really, it shouldn't be a position that matters, it should be getting the best player 'cause we all know by the time this ship is turned around whomevever would be in front of the "best player" would probably have moved on anyway. Adrian Peterson gets the hype of the sort of rare college back that is special like Reggie Bush. You didn't hear that sort of shit for Dillion when he led the nation in rushing for the huskies or for Barber when he was third in the nation for virginia I believe. Peterson is a rare prospect fellas...

[b bulldog]

I've read where Pete is the best back to come out of college in the last 10 years.

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You have to build your team through the line. Joe Thomas would be a nice fit with his mobility and athleticism.

We have Clifton and Tauscher; no need to spend a top 10 pick in a backup

It is pretty obvious that at this juncture Clifton is not a cut blocking type of lineman. Can he get better is the question.

We could definitely trade him and get good value for him. We could also draft Thomas and move Tauscher to the inside if Cliffy is working out. That would solidify the line. Assumption made that Thomas works as a cut blocking lineman as well, but he is plenty athletic.

Tauscher hasn't looked good either for starters, secondly, aren't you sick of seeing the Packers go into camp with tackles trying to play guard? Two years in a row it hasn't worked out, I am not convinced it ever will.

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I wouldn't be against taking Calvin Johnson. The dude is a freakish athlete.

[BallHawk]

We're getting kind of ahead of ourselves, aren't we. We've still got 14 games left, and even though we probably won't make the playoffs, there's still much to be decided. Contracts, injuries, progression of players, etc. All things that we need to see play out.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

You have to build your team through the line. Joe Thomas would be a nice fit with his mobility and athleticism.

We have Clifton and Tauscher; no need to spend a top 10 pick in a backup

It is pretty obvious that at this juncture Clifton is not a cut blocking type of lineman. Can he get better is the question.

We could definitely trade him and get good value for him. We could also draft Thomas and move Tauscher to the inside if Cliffy is working out. That would solidify the line. Assumption made that Thomas works as a cut blocking lineman as well, but he is plenty athletic.

Tauscher hasn't looked good either for starters, secondly, aren't you sick of seeing the Packers go into camp with tackles trying to play guard? Two years in a row it hasn't worked out, I am not convinced it ever will.

Tauscher has been good, penalties not withstanding. There is gonna be some period of adjustment. And, since the line relies on cohesiveness and playing together, I believe some of his problems are a result of trying to compensate for 2 rookies and a second year player.

I feel your pain on the line, but Tauscher isn't some street free agent or low pick. He definitely can play.

[b bulldog]

Hopefully some much needed moves in UFA. I'm now driving the Calvin Johnson bus and I am also reserving a seat on the Adrian Peterson bus. Lawrence Jackson and Joe Thomas will be the next bus tickets I may want to get. These are my big 4 in next years draft.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOuHzq-cz3s

Calvin Johnson highlight reel -

He makes spectacular, acrobatic catches with a god awful quarterback. He is one of the few college receivers with the ability to contort his body (better than Javon) at catching the jump ball, and he doesn't appear at all afraid to go into traffic.

The negatives -
very little runs after the catch
seems to fall down a lot
Doesn't appear to be too strong


Those are three pretty big negatives in my book. The WCO is all about running after the catch and being able to shed tackles. I am not sure he will ever get stronger. If only he was 30 pounds heavier, he would be an all-world tight end with his height and broad shoulders. Unfortunately, despite the broad shoulders, he isn't filled out well, either. He is leaps and bounds better than Teddy Ginn, imo.

[b bulldog]

Thomas only if he is at 100%

[b bulldog]

I also like Landry and Meriweather if we would trade down. This is a very good S class and we do need anothwer competent S.

[BallHawk]

I don't like drafting a WR high in the draft. Look, we got Greg Jennings in the mid 2nd round, and he looks to be one of the most promising WR from the draft. Donald Driver is 7th round. I don't buy into Johnson. He shows a great performance against Notre Dame, but then he plays a cupcake, in Troy, and he catches 2 passes for 9 yards.

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I don't like drafting a WR high in the draft. Look, we got Greg Jennings in the mid 2nd round, and he looks to be one of the most promising WR from the draft. Donald Driver is 7th round. I don't buy into Johnson. He shows a great performance against Notre Dame, but then he plays a cupcake, in Troy, and he catches 2 passes for 9 yards.

You must really watch a lot of college football. Cupcake is a good word, he does appear to play soft. While he's not afraid to go over the middle he doesn't ever fight for anything extra after an amazing grab.

[Packnut]

Irons

I agree Packnut, I think Peterson could be the next Ki-jonna Carter. I love Kenny Irons though.

His preformance against a very tough LSU defense was impressive to say the least. I'd be very happy to see him in green and gold.

[Deputy Nutz]

I'd love to see TT trade down and pick up 2 first. Something like Ginn Jr. (upgrade at CB, part time WR and special teams monster) and a pass rushinig DE or DT. Cole and jenkins are best served as backups.

There is no need to draft and rb that early. History proves you can find very good/great backs in later rounds.

At this point Ted Ginn Jr is strictly a wide receiver, and a he is bar none the best athlete in the 2007 draft, thats if he comes out.