An example of how quickly things could turn around.....

[MJZiggy]

Does anyone know what kind of cap room the Bears are going to have going into the offseason? I couldn't find it.

[esoxx]

If anything, we should all be planning a scheme to burn Sherman’s house and torture his wife and children because the real villain can be summed up with one picture.

This is a little extreme. Couldn't we just burn down his shed or something?

[Bretsky]

Yeah Retailguy..

I didn't think Thompson did too bad considering all the FA's got way overpaid this off season. Woodson was a bargain compared to many of them. I just can't stand Charles Woodson. Maybe he'll be a good safty.

As far as Favre retiring, how much worse can it get? He lost 14 of his last 16 games, ooohhh. We gonna lose them all? Kitna won more games in cincy and we all know he's not fantastic. QB is the most important position, but you can get by with a decent one if you build the rest of your team. Rodgers might be just fine. I'm ready to find out. Favre will not be here when any meaningfull games are played. We might as well move forward now instead of delaying it.

This all depends how you look at Woodson's contract. I don't know a player in free agency that is more overpaid this year than Charles Woodson.

One could argue you have to look at the whole deal but who knows if he'll be around that long.

[b bulldog]

Anyone who compares Calvin to TO in regards to both being headcases, is just full of sh!t. Calvin by all means is a very good kid and wants to get better as a player.

[MJZiggy]

Yeah Retailguy..

I didn't think Thompson did too bad considering all the FA's got way overpaid this off season. Woodson was a bargain compared to many of them. I just can't stand Charles Woodson. Maybe he'll be a good safty.

As far as Favre retiring, how much worse can it get? He lost 14 of his last 16 games, ooohhh. We gonna lose them all? Kitna won more games in cincy and we all know he's not fantastic. QB is the most important position, but you can get by with a decent one if you build the rest of your team. Rodgers might be just fine. I'm ready to find out. Favre will not be here when any meaningfull games are played. We might as well move forward now instead of delaying it.

This all depends how you look at Woodson's contract. I don't know a player in free agency that is more overpaid this year than Charles Woodson.

One could argue you have to look at the whole deal but who knows if he'll be around that long.

Ooohh wait! I know this one!! LeCharles Bentley!!!

[Bretsky]

So, this past season, WHO should Thompson have spent money on?


LeCharles Bentley? Mmmm. NO
Mike Vanderjagt? Mmmm. NO
Terrell Owens? Mmmm. NO
Lavar Arrington? Mmmm. NO
One of the 6 other offensive linemen on the Cleveland DL? Mmmm NO.

I'm sure I forgot 3 guys who have been *stars* for their new team. Hutchinson has played well, for example, but at what cost? You can't wrap that salary into our offensive line. You've got no money for other areas.

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There were several several players out there last year that could have really helped this team. And I'm not saying he should've signed them all; I just don't buy the defense of TT when people come out and say "who" could we have signed. I'd rather hear TT is tearing the Arc down and looking for wood to rebuild it because that would be more accurate IMO.

Anyways, here's a sampling of players we could have tried to entice:

OL
LeCharles Bentley
Vince Manuwai
Justin Hartwig
Kevin Mawae
Andre Gurode
Stephen Neal


Will Witherspoon
Akin Ayodele
David Thornton
Antonio Bryant
Maurice Morris
Andre Dyson
Darren Howard
Chris Hope
Chris Baker
Will Demps

[Harlan Huckleby]

.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Nobody rudely askes HH for backing of why he believes Roman is a decent player even though he throws out unbacked one liners about Roman being missed. Why is that? Because everyone knows where he's coming from. You could have kept that snide remark to yourself and I could have kept mine.

I don't understand what this means, but it sounds like lyrics to an angry Bob Dylan song.

[BEARMAN]

Ziggy, with the owners just adding 10 million onto the cap next year, from what I have read(the BEARS do not confide in me on their monitary matters) I think that Mr. Jones, Mr. Briggs will be paied the $$$ they are looking for. There are many ways to give a player the $$ he wants/deserves, signing bonuses, defered payments, incentive payments, ect, ect. I am quite sure that if DA BEARS want to retain the services of any player, the money will be spent acordingly.
Likewise, dont you packers have a bunch of $$$ under the cap? How much will trading Farve save you guys?

GO BEARS !

[woodbuck27]

Yeah Retailguy..

I didn't think Thompson did too bad considering all the FA's got way overpaid this off season. Woodson was a bargain compared to many of them. I just can't stand Charles Woodson. Maybe he'll be a good safty.

As far as Favre retiring, how much worse can it get? He lost 14 of his last 16 games, ooohhh. We gonna lose them all? Kitna won more games in cincy and we all know he's not fantastic. QB is the most important position, but you can get by with a decent one if you build the rest of your team. Rodgers might be just fine. I'm ready to find out. Favre will not be here when any meaningfull games are played. We might as well move forward now instead of delaying it.

OK Nostradomus, Oh yee with Superior Analytical Skills take a look into the crystal ball below and what do YOU see?

Packers ( 0-2-0 )

PASSING

.............CP/AT.. YDS... TD.... INT
B. Favre 31/55... 340.... 3....... 1


RUSHING

RUSHING

...............ATT..... YDS .....TD...... LG
A. Green ...16....... 42....... 0........ 8
D. Driver..... 1....... 16....... 0....... 16
N. Herron.... 3......... 5....... 0........ 3

I'll try to help YOU by proposing these questions:

What happens if YOUR Team can't establish the run?

a) The Team must then rely on the passing /receiving game to win anyway.

b) If the run isn't established the Team gets beat up on both sides of the ball, as the Teams Defense is forced on the field too long during the course of the game compared to the Oppositions Defense.

Question:

Now if this condition, of NOT establishing the Run was to continue, game after game...after game, after game ....on and on.... would this:

a) Assist your team's defense, by giving the players more game ready exoperience....as in ... " Bring it on suckaaa !"

b) Tend to lead to more risk or actual injuries (adversity) on your team's defense.

Would the above condition:Place your team's defensive depth to the test more than planned considering the real talent in depth?

Take your time with this one.

a) YES

b) NO


Question:

What option's does the HC have in calling plays, if the RUN fails, game after game?

a) Be content with 3 and outs, because he really desires to see just how good his defense is under as much pressure as possible? He doesn't like the players on defense anyway.

b) Go to his GM and SCREAM at him to get HELP for the OL.

c) Go to his GM and ask him pretty please, to get him some help on the OL and offer anything in return for relief.

Question:

Is 55 pass's in a game...

a) > the normal for a NFL game plan ?

b) < avg. for pass's for a NFL game plan?

c) about right or close to the NFL average in an NFL Game Plan?


If a QB passed 55 times in each of 16 G in the NFL Schedule.That ='s Ohhhh,let me see... 880 Pass's Total for the season.

Question (and without cheating and checking the record book)

Would that break the NFL Record for pass's Total in a 16G Season?

a) Yes.

b) Not even close


Three Part Essay Question: ( In 20 word's or less )

a) What did Brett Favre say recently if a Team has to pass the ball 40 times or more in a game ?

b) Was his response to that scenario positive or negative regarding winning?

c) Did he make that comment before or after last Sunddays game in Lambeau Field with " the Saints " ?

a) Obviously, after the Saints game. Because, if he said it before the game his HC and possibly his GM would have gone over everything to ensure 40 pass's or more wasn't in the realm of possibility ie The GM would get out the Bullwhip and take it to the business side if the OL wasn't ready/totally up to scratch.

Noone wants Ted to take that thing out, and "whip it!.. whip it... good "

b) Brett Favre said it before the game. As he saw /knew "Mike McCarthy's SECRET Game Plan, and gently or diplomatically was telling all Packer fans not to bet the House on "the Packers" in the upcoming Saints game.


Question and YOU may use your calculator:

A game where a QB makes 55 passing attempts is more likely or less likely to result in turnovers via interceptions (picks)?

a) more likely ... as the game progress as the QB's arm strength will decline as the number of throws rises and reduce both the velocity on his throws and also then the accuracy.

b) less likely... as Brett Favre needs the first 25 - 30 pass's just to get warmed up. He's really humming the ball after 45 -50 pass's.

Question: You may go to that booth... over..... there

to enable some solitude and dead silence to really concentrate on geting a correct response to this next skill testing question.

You have 10 minutes booth time to formulate your response...

Good Luck GregJennings

Taking away Donald Driver's 1 run of 16 yards and looking then at the RB avg. of 2.47 Yards/carry.

Is a result of 2.47 Yards/carry...

a) GOOD?

b) BAD ?

[Terry]

As far as dumping a large portion of cap into your offensive line, I found this in an article in a Chicago paper today.....

"The Bears are one of 15 teams spending more than $20 million on the offensive line, and they rank second behind the Vikings with an offensive-line payroll just over $25 million. The Super Bowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers are next with about a million less than the Bears"

I think it's a good place to spend money. Green Bay was a helluva team when they had a dominant OL. I know Seattle was dumping good money into their OL.

New England are spending $10 million on their O-Line.

[Terry]

Firing Sherman the GM was the best move Harlan ever made, but it wasn't enough to make up for the worst move he ever made, hiring him. 5 years of bad drafts will ruin any team and that is where we were. Sherman did a good job buying time but it was a matter of time before it crumbled.

Sherman had three drafts. Ok, arguably, he had influence in a 4th, but we'll never find out with any accuracy just how much. And maybe Thompson listened to him too, but I'm dubious. Whatever, only THREE drafts were exclusively his.

[esoxx]

Whatever, only THREE drafts were exclusively his.

Which was three drafts too many.

[mngolf19]

Said it before and I'll say it again. Teams win with OL and DL. They cover up weaknesses in all other areas. You try to draft and develop these guys, but if you can plug a hole immediately with FA, you do it. There just aren't that many really good Linemen out there. All other positions can be developed or purchased at much lower cost as you don't have to have great players everywhere else if you are strong on the lines. I would ALWAYS spend more money on the lines than anywhere else.

[MJZiggy]

But if you could only fix one line at a time, do you fix O, or D?