Wells and Jenkins

[mraynrand]

Kamp, Walker, Barnett...Wells maybe but he's done nothing to this point to show he's average. He's been poor.

What are you basing your assessment of Wells on?

Didn't you like Harris or Glenn. I bet you were excited by the Signing of Joe Johnson, too. Re-signing Clifton and Tauscher was also the right thing to do. The bottom line is that TT has gutted the Packers, and brought in a coaching staff that uses schemes that make our best players useless. He didn't need to do it, but was forced to because no one else wanted to come here. Not Linehan, not Childress. Why would they, knowing that they could be fired for four straight playoff appearances, three straight division championships and a .667 record as GM. And TT's crop of draftees are looking worthless. His #2 pick at safety can't cover a TE or a seventh round draft pick, and can't actually cover one on one. What a huge liability. His #1 draft pick can't beat out an aging interception machine at QB. Who knows - perhaps his #5 pick of the draft will actually work out - or it may be a situation where he learned from the Master (Ron Wolf) how to get zero value at #5 (Buckley) or with the #1 pick in the draft. John Michaels, Antwaun Edwards, Jamal Reynolds, Bubba Franks - those are great picks.

[Scott Campbell]

Why would they, knowing that they could be fired for four straight playoff appearances, three straight division championships and a .667 record as GM.

Did Sherman ever respond to any of your love letters?

[Patler]

I would argue that any "gutting" of the Packers was done by TT's years in complete control during which he did not bring in nearly enough NFL calibre talent to sustain a competitive roster, inspite of some of his actions that were good.

I would rather miss on the first round pick and find four others who can contribute as starters, than find a very good first rounder and get nothing else.

With offense, defense, kickers, longsnapper, nickel and dime defenses and multiple offensive sets requiring extra WRs and TEs, a team really has about 30 "starters". Then you need a capable LB replacement, a 3rd DT and DE, another OT (or two) and an OG. You really need 35 or so key "contributers" on your team. To meet that, you have to average 4 or 5 new ones each year to cover retirements, injuries, FA losses and 1 or 2 year flameouts. If you go 3, 4 or 5 years falling well short of that, your roster gets progrssively weaker until a few key player losses (which EVERYONE has) or injuries makes you 4-12.

GB's last few winning seasons were enhanced greatly by a very weak division with no other team having a winning record during that time period. Look at the Packers record against winning teams under Sherman, it is quite unimpressive, and indicates that their record was a bit of a sham. They were really a middle class team, inspite of their winning percentage.

[Bretsky]

Kamp, Walker, Barnett...Wells maybe but he's done nothing to this point to show he's average. He's been poor.

What are you basing your assessment of Wells on?

Didn't you like Harris or Glenn. I bet you were excited by the Signing of Joe Johnson, too. Re-signing Clifton and Tauscher was also the right thing to do. The bottom line is that TT has gutted the Packers, and brought in a coaching staff that uses schemes that make our best players useless. He didn't need to do it, but was forced to because no one else wanted to come here. Not Linehan, not Childress. Why would they, knowing that they could be fired for four straight playoff appearances, three straight division championships and a .667 record as GM. And TT's crop of draftees are looking worthless. His #2 pick at safety can't cover a TE or a seventh round draft pick, and can't actually cover one on one. What a huge liability. His #1 draft pick can't beat out an aging interception machine at QB. Who knows - perhaps his #5 pick of the draft will actually work out - or it may be a situation where he learned from the Master (Ron Wolf) how to get zero value at #5 (Buckley) or with the #1 pick in the draft. John Michaels, Antwaun Edwards, Jamal Reynolds, Bubba Franks - those are great picks.

At the very least we should all be able to agree Wells is an unproven commodity.

As for Harris, I'd certainly have Harris than another busted Mike Sherman pick; hell he should have traded every pick away except his first rounders and we'd be a lot better off. I'd give that move a positive; but if I had faith Sherman could actually select the right 2nd round pick we'd also be well off with a good 2nd round pick.

As for Glenn, are you kidding ? What did the Glenn signing accomplish ? A stopgap ? Lost draft picks........which I guess really didn't mean anything anyways with Sherman's picks.

He brought in somebody who could have been a long term player, as he is with Dallas. He traded TWO fourth round draft picks. Then grossly overestimated the talent and development of Robert the Fraud Ferguson and figured the Fraud would beat Glenn out and Glenn would not like that.

FROM THE JS
" One source privy to the discussions between Gould and the Packers said it was "highly unlikely" Glenn would be back in Green Bay next season. But before the Packers void Glenn's contract by not paying the roster bonus, they must be certain that their two young receivers, Javon Walker and Robert Ferguson, are ready to play a major part in the offense.

They could bring him to camp and allow him to compete with Walker and Ferguson for a starting job opposite Donald Driver. But if he didn't win out, they would probably have to cut him because it's doubtful he would accept being a backup. ""

So he dealt that player....aka...the two fourth round draft picks....for ONE sixth rounder.

So whether we liked Glenn or not is mute; the whole dealings just goes to support the incompetency of Mike Sherman the GM even more.

B