Here we go again??

[MJZiggy]

That was Larry? Cool. I had no idea who asked the question.

He does like playing with reporters though doesn't he?
He seemed to trust the few that were standing there at the time, though I don't think he gives them much credit for higher thinking...

[Tarlam!]

So, ND, Zig, Harv, what you are saying is, coach was right to answer the question in that way, singling out Harris as the main issue in the secondary.

I would agree, if he alone were the problem. BUT HE CLEARLY IS NOT!

That is my point. I have no problem in coach saying a player sucks. but ALL of our DBs suck. That cannot be a coincidence.

That is why I still feel, despite your presentations, M3 answred the question ineffectively. The real blame lies elsewhere.

[mission]

So, ND, Zig, Harv, what you are saying is, coach was right to answer the question in that way, singling out Harris as the main issue in the secondary.

I would agree, if he alone were the problem. BUT HE CLEARLY IS NOT!

That is my point. I have no problem in coach saying a player sucks. but ALL of our DBs suck. That cannot be a coincidence.

That is why I still feel, despite your presentations, M3 answred the question ineffectively. The real blame lies elsewhere.

how was that incorrect? he asked about AL HARRIS' play -- not for an explanation of why the defensive backfield is struggling. as mentioned earlier, this was a question to MM following a lot of other questions regarding the secondary. then they asked about harris and MM said what he said. i think that's a pretty accurate reply to a very specific question.

and im glad harris isnt completely butthurt over it now. neato.

[MJZiggy]

How would you have answered the question. The whole secondary was addressed earlier in the pc and the follow up was as follows: How would you assess Al Harris' first three games?

You have no time to think about it. Go!

[swede]

Harris thinks he's God's gift to the NFL. Trade him!!

Look I don't like his reaction either but your statement is not true Al has been a team player from day one yes he bitched about his deal but he didn't hold out he came he is playing and he is our best corner by far albeit that isn't saying much right now, I blame the coaching...

Agreed, at least in terms of the defensive coaching.

The media, IMHO, did an expert job of accuately misquoting MM in order to get a reaction from Harris. It worked.

The fact that AH was ready to fire off in such a sensitive way showed that he isn't happy, or content, or making long term career plans in this town.
I am right at the same place with Harris that I was with McKenzie. He is frustrated with the crappy coverage scheming and poor execution and feels that he's strapped to a coaching staff that has more problems than the players.

I might want out, too, if I was a D back in Green Bay.

Zig asks me how I knew that. I'm not sure I know which "that" you mean, Zig.

The media accurately misquoting MM? The Larry McCarren interview proved me correct on this guess.

Al Harris being unhappy? This again is a guess on my part. He was awfully ready to believe he wasn't wanted or appreciated. The media constantly portrays him as a troubled troublemaker, but every interview I've seen makes him look pretty sane and level-headed, if perhaps a bit sensitive. End result? He will play as professionally as he can this year and then try to get out of town next year because he's not feeling the love in this town.

The crappy coaching? Coaches plan and teach. The pass defense has looked poorly planned or poorly taught way too frequently. I'm willing to let someone argue that Marquand Molasses and Charles Woodson are the bigger problems. I don't know that the coaching is crappy but I claim my right to think it is. And if the coaching is crappy no one knows that better than the Packer D'backs. Crappy bosses are frustrating and employees tend to leave because of them.

[Fritz]

Uncle Al will not be playing for the Packers next year. You can see it coming.

[MadtownPacker]

At first I was kinda pissed for Harrisment to say stuff like that but when yo think about it he has a right to be mad. Woodson was brought in and shown major love on his bank account. Why? What has he done lately? Been hurt and been a part of a terrible raiders D when he did play. I havent heard about him shutting anyone down.

So he comes in the mix and TT shows him the money meanwhile Al has been here all along and played very well. Does that mean he should get more $$$? Maybe, maybe not but for Woodson to come in, get paid and still suck would piss anyone off.

Why the hell did TT clean up raider trash? Strike one against him IMO.

[woodbuck27]

If Harris is playing poorly as a reaction to his demands not being met, then I say bench his ass.

I'd rather us get burned by Carroll's penalties, than by Harris' sabotage attempts.

Still, I can't believe a consummate professional like Al' Harris would stoop to dishonorable behaviour to get traded.

I can understand him being pissed at M3's answer. The whole secondary looks like crap, at times even my man Nick. Singling out any one player from a poorly co-ordinated group was plain amateurish by the HC.

If he wanted to single anyone out, he should have picked on the guy responsible: The positions coach.

Al's press statement is regrettable and I doubt he'll be finishing his career in Green and Gold.

Al Harris has demonstrated to us that he has a complaint/complaints and suddenly backs off smartly after re-consideration of a certain manner "in/for his BEST interests".

Again, we are experiencing... just this part of who Al Harris is.

Al Harris has one option. To shut his mouth and demonstrate that he still can be competent at the left CB position with "the Green Bay Packers".

That is Al Harris's proper response in regards to any needed damage control.

Practise hard and play better at his position and get on the right path to helping "the Packers" win football games.

Given that... the rest may come to Al Harris. Distractions from "just that" arn't good for the Packers or Al Harris's best interests.

GO PACKERS ! Eagles domination must END !!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Uncle Al will not be playing for the Packers next year. You can see it coming.

nah, Harris is too old to pull a McKenzie. Of course anything can happen, but I expect he'll finish out his contract, and will be the end. Packers need him.

[mraynrand]

So he comes in the mix and TT shows him the money meanwhile Al has been here all along and played very well.

Sherman showed Al the money, and many thought it was too much and that it was a reaction to the McKenzie fiasco. Perhaps it was as much as Al deserved. If Al wanted to go FA, he shouldn't have re-upped at that time. And he now knows he isn't going to get another signing bonus of any significance, especially if the secondary continues to play like garbage. Monday Night will go a long way in branding this secondary. If they suck in Philly, they probably will be labeled for the entire season, and that will drag Harris down, no matter how well he plays.

[MadtownPacker]

If folks thought that was too much to pay Al then they should be in a rage over Woodson getting mega dollars for having a broken leg!!

[woodbuck27]

Al Harris needs to calm down. Packers need him to play great on monday, along with the rest of the team, or Packers won't be able to contain the Eagles. Eagles are underrated, Giants got a lucky win. If Packers play great then they'll be competitive and that does, at times, lead to wins.

Exactly.

We need a total TEAM effort on Monday night. From " the Packers players " and the Packer Coaching Staff.

Of course,that includes better play on behalf of Al Harris and Charles Woodson, but as well....

Our entire secondary needs to step it up. If they play as (they have been NOT playing... or decent ) then Donovan McNabb will, in all probability, pick us apart with the pass.

We need OUR secondary to improve their play based in a proper game plan.

In fairness... it can't all simply fall on " the players " per say.

It won't be a successful outcome, without a proper GAME PLAN.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I say trade Woodson and Harris for a 1st from the skins (they don't care about their picks) and draft good young corner to play with Carroll.

[mraynrand]

If folks thought that was too much to pay Al then they should be in a rage over Woodson getting mega dollars for having a broken leg!!

Good point. I think some questioned the dollars, while others wondered whether Woodson was banking off reputation. I think he's starting because of the money, the rep, and the rep of Carroll as a grabber. I think Carroll should be starting. He hits harder, tackles better, and runs faster. He's still pretty raw, but at least he has an upside whereas it looks like Woodson is headed into the dumper.

[woodbuck27]

Harris thinks he's God's gift to the NFL. Trade him!!

Look I don't like his reaction either but your statement is not true Al has been a team player from day one yes he bitched about his deal but he didn't hold out he came he is playing and he is our best corner by far albeit that isn't saying much right now, I blame the coaching. He has a right to be pissed about the money lets say you are in sales and you produce 10 million in sales your salary is 3 million,along comes a new guy Charles Woodsen he has 5 million in sales and gets a 10 million dollar salary you gonna be OK with that don't lie you would ask for a raise,look for a new job or not work quite as hard I know I would because the same thing happened to me once, guess what my employer ponied up after a polite discussion in his office. Who's fault TT's and my old boss they fucked up it is their right to do whatever they want but there will be consequences.

Your point is VALID !

Yet "the Packers" don't need this as a distraction even given the weight of TRUTH in your view.

Al Harris just has to concentrate on what he has demonstrated he can bring to the table and go from there .

His loyalty cannot be devided in himself (his needs) and compromising what he has the ability to demonstrate to us and his Team in assisting the primary objective.

That being...WINNING FOOTBALL GAMES.

GO PACK GO ! PACKER FAN FAITH in A WIN over "the Eagles".

It's TIME !!