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  • #31
    Originally posted by MJZiggy
    Just a question of possibility vs. loyalty.
    Take care of/support your family first. Loyalty to your "entertainment" purposes football team 2nd.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by superfan
      I noticed recently that the Vikings had a job opening in my field and I was faced with this choice, and decided that there was no way I could work for them. As much as I love football and think it would be fantastic to work for an NFL franchise, I simply couldn't live with myself if I was an employee of the Minnesota Vikings.

      Unless I was working the sabotage angle, of course.
      Your kidding, right? Why in the world would you pass up that opp? I am a huge Viking fan, but if the Packers offered me a fair position and pay, duh. Doesn't mean I don't still pull for the Vikes in my mind. It's just a job in a world that I am a big fan of.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by mngolf19
        Originally posted by superfan
        I noticed recently that the Vikings had a job opening in my field and I was faced with this choice, and decided that there was no way I could work for them. As much as I love football and think it would be fantastic to work for an NFL franchise, I simply couldn't live with myself if I was an employee of the Minnesota Vikings.

        Unless I was working the sabotage angle, of course.
        Your kidding, right? Why in the world would you pass up that opp? I am a huge Viking fan, but if the Packers offered me a fair position and pay, duh. Doesn't mean I don't still pull for the Vikes in my mind. It's just a job in a world that I am a big fan of.
        ....and plus, we all know you are on the verge of converting anyway mngolf!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by MJZiggy
          If the Bucs offered you a Director of Finance position...
          My point is, unless I had a chance to be CEO, I would not work in any industry. That rules NFL out for me, because one seems to need a football background...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by GrnBay007
            ....and plus, we all know you are on the verge of converting anyway mngolf!
            You know I would listen to anything you had to say 007.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD
              Working in the nfl would be a dream, no matter what team it is.
              Probably not, really. Except the pay might be pretty good. And it's always nice to work in something that has so much overall appeal, but one quickly learns it's all just hard work at the end of the day and the glamour value (for oneself) is virtually negligible in comparison. It's like being a movie star - sounds like a dream, but it's incredibly hard work and involves working around a lot of temperment.

              If you're lucky enough to be doing something you like well enough at present or which at least gives you some degree of flexibility or freedom, then you're already doing better than 99% of the working population, glamour jobs and big money jobs included.

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              • #37
                I guess as long as it's not the raiders, the cowboys, the bears or the purples I would do it.

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                • #38
                  Then when that team played the Pack I would make sure some laxative or something got into their gatorade.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Terry
                    Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD
                    Working in the nfl would be a dream, no matter what team it is.
                    Probably not, really. Except the pay might be pretty good. And it's always nice to work in something that has so much overall appeal, but one quickly learns it's all just hard work at the end of the day and the glamour value (for oneself) is virtually negligible in comparison. It's like being a movie star - sounds like a dream, but it's incredibly hard work and involves working around a lot of temperment.

                    If you're lucky enough to be doing something you like well enough at present or which at least gives you some degree of flexibility or freedom, then you're already doing better than 99% of the working population, glamour jobs and big money jobs included.

                    I guess your right if your talking about being a low level assistant. But if I got offered a defensive or offensive coordinator job I wouldn’t mind the hard work because every Sunday you would get rewarded. Could you imagine running a NFL defense or offense, that would be unbelievable.
                    Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by MJZiggy
                      But what if that job weren't for the Vikings but someone out of division, say, the 49ers or someone? If that were the local team would you have gone after it?
                      Absolutely, if everything else about the job was a good fit also (pay, commute, etc.).
                      "My problems with him are his vision and tendency to dance instead of pounding a hole." - Harvey Wallbangers

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by mngolf19
                        Originally posted by superfan
                        I noticed recently that the Vikings had a job opening in my field and I was faced with this choice, and decided that there was no way I could work for them. As much as I love football and think it would be fantastic to work for an NFL franchise, I simply couldn't live with myself if I was an employee of the Minnesota Vikings.

                        Unless I was working the sabotage angle, of course.
                        Your kidding, right? Why in the world would you pass up that opp? I am a huge Viking fan, but if the Packers offered me a fair position and pay, duh. Doesn't mean I don't still pull for the Vikes in my mind. It's just a job in a world that I am a big fan of.
                        I should clarify it was never an actual job offer -- just saw a posting to work for the Vikes in my field. Didn't pursue it for a number of reasons, but Packer loyalty was one of them. I have a pretty good job and wasn't seriously looking, just browsing listings, so it's not like I chose unemployment over working for the Vikes.

                        MNGolf, in your example, would you then become a Packer fan, or would you continue to be a vocal Viking fan, post Viking paraphernelia in the cube, etc.? I believe you have to be loyal to your company, and could picture no good outcome in my mind by taking a job with the Viking organization.

                        Personal foul on superfan -- too many uses of the words "Vikes" and "Vikings" in one post...
                        "My problems with him are his vision and tendency to dance instead of pounding a hole." - Harvey Wallbangers

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Terry
                          Except the pay might be pretty good.
                          I would argue that the pay probably wouldn't be very good, except for the top dogs. MM got his start in coaching as an unpaid volunteer. And for regular office type jobs for an NFL franchise, I would expect the pay to be less than one could get at a different company. Due to the appeal of working for an NFL franchise, the teams probably get flooded with hundreds of resumes for bookeepers, account execs, etc. The old supply and demand rule suggests that the positions don't pay that well, but the fringe benefits would more than make up for it in many cases.
                          "My problems with him are his vision and tendency to dance instead of pounding a hole." - Harvey Wallbangers

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by superfan
                            Originally posted by Terry
                            Except the pay might be pretty good.
                            I would argue that the pay probably wouldn't be very good, except for the top dogs. MM got his start in coaching as an unpaid volunteer. And for regular office type jobs for an NFL franchise, I would expect the pay to be less than one could get at a different company. Due to the appeal of working for an NFL franchise, the teams probably get flooded with hundreds of resumes for bookeepers, account execs, etc. The old supply and demand rule suggests that the positions don't pay that well, but the fringe benefits would more than make up for it in many cases.
                            That's a good point, superfan. It actually crossed my mind after I posted, because I hadn't been thinking of the less visible jobs. I let it stand, but you're absolutely right. You get the same thing in any glamour profession, like the movies. Good point.

                            For me, unless I really, really liked the job itself, I wouldn't personally feel like it was a dream come true. If anything, being around all that glamour would be a daily reminder that oneself has NOT achieved it.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by superfan
                              Originally posted by mngolf19
                              Originally posted by superfan
                              I noticed recently that the Vikings had a job opening in my field and I was faced with this choice, and decided that there was no way I could work for them. As much as I love football and think it would be fantastic to work for an NFL franchise, I simply couldn't live with myself if I was an employee of the Minnesota Vikings.

                              Unless I was working the sabotage angle, of course.
                              Your kidding, right? Why in the world would you pass up that opp? I am a huge Viking fan, but if the Packers offered me a fair position and pay, duh. Doesn't mean I don't still pull for the Vikes in my mind. It's just a job in a world that I am a big fan of.
                              I should clarify it was never an actual job offer -- just saw a posting to work for the Vikes in my field. Didn't pursue it for a number of reasons, but Packer loyalty was one of them. I have a pretty good job and wasn't seriously looking, just browsing listings, so it's not like I chose unemployment over working for the Vikes.

                              MNGolf, in your example, would you then become a Packer fan, or would you continue to be a vocal Viking fan, post Viking paraphernelia in the cube, etc.? I believe you have to be loyal to your company, and could picture no good outcome in my mind by taking a job with the Viking organization.

                              Personal foul on superfan -- too many uses of the words "Vikes" and "Vikings" in one post...
                              Superfan, I wouldn't be obvious or vocal amongst the "company" people. I would keep it to my personal life. My support for the Vikes will never go away, and yet I would have to do my best while at work. Probably would just avoid getting into too many discussions or celebrations.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by mngolf19
                                Superfan, I wouldn't be obvious or vocal amongst the "company" people. I would keep it to my personal life. My support for the Vikes will never go away, and yet I would have to do my best while at work. Probably would just avoid getting into too many discussions or celebrations.
                                I agree with you completely, mngolf19. This would be my approach as well.
                                "My problems with him are his vision and tendency to dance instead of pounding a hole." - Harvey Wallbangers

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