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    Now the Deleware County Times chimes in on Walker Trade

    Some of their article is stuff we already have heard but they have some new info in that this is the first time any talk of two 2nd rounders has been discussed or the possibility of a deal involving conditional picks.

    http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16493709&BRD=1675&PAG=461&dept_id=18170&rfi=6


    It also talks about the Packers 'showing their hand' before the draft. Not sure what that's supposed to mean.

    Regardless....it's news and it's about the Packers so read away.

    Giving credit where credit is due....this came from footballguys.com
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    I can't imagine why, after just dumping TO, they'd want to take on his little prototype.
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    • #3
      I don't think Javon is nearly as bad as Owens. Owens has gotten paid, been in good individual situations, and played for winning organizations--and he still hasn't been happy and has derided teammates and coaches unmercifally. Javon isn't very bright and has been taking bad advice from hanger ons (family and friends). There have been rumors that he's hurting for cash. I'm guessing he went out and spent his bonus and the fact that he hasn't been able to spend like he did his rookie year (with the $5M bonus) is at the crux of this problem. As much as I'd like the Packers to trade him if they can get value, I don't see him being a problem child once he gets paid by another organization.
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      • #4
        Walker does not = TO, though.

        Walker has never been anything but a good teammate and hasn't had any on-field or locker room issues. Even the "rift" between him and Favre is debatable (who's at fault?), and they're still on amicable terms. Walker's beef is with the Packer organization only. And recall that he never actually "held out."

        TO, well, he has a beef with everyone.

        J-Walk may be a risk based on whether he'll fully recover from injury, but not a personality risk. He's an OK guy.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
          ..I'm guessing he went out and spent his bonus and the fact that he hasn't been able to spend like he did his rookie year (with the $5M bonus) is at the crux of this problem...
          Let's see, 20% goes to his agent, so his taxable is 4M. What does that leave him? I don't know my way around your tax rates...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by FavreChild

            J-Walk may be a risk based on whether he'll fully recover from injury, but not a personality risk. He's an OK guy.
            I think you can be an okay guy and still be a personality risk.

            This beef started with Javon, not the Packers. Any team talking about him to the Packers is fully aware they are balancing his substantial upside with both his potential for recovering from a serious injury AND his potential for being a team distraction whenever his brother-in-law needs more bling.
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            • #7
              100 bucks on that if the Pack offer him a fair extension he signs it and Shuts the f up

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              • #8
                True. But you know what? Anybody's a personality risk, then.

                No one feels sorry for Walker on account of money. But most likely every single one of us has felt underappreciated/undervalued by our employer at one point. A lot of employees feel like that every day - sometimes rightly so, sometimes not so much. Does that make us all "problem children?"

                Once in a while, the situation deteriorates beyond repair. It's not just money - it's a culmination of frustration and hard feelings over a long period of time. And that's what I think it is in Walker's case.

                Heck yes, he'll be happy to get more money, too. But I highly doubt this will be a pattern of behavior that will continually manifest itself with Walker. He's never even approached the level of TO, as Harvey put it, with the constant derision of teammates and coaches.

                Javon just wants to go work for a new company - is that so hard to relate to? And yeah, he ultimately wants his new employer to recognize his work by giving him more money.

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                • #9
                  My thoughts are if you weren't happy with your initial contract then don't sign it. No one forced him to commit for 5 years, he saw a little extra cash in case he didn't pan out so he hopped on. Turns out he did pan out, and being a man he should deal with the ramifications of his actions.

                  What sickens me is how these people don't care what type of message they're sending to the youth of America. These guys are supposed to be role models, instead they are what is turning America sour.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FavreChild
                    Walker does not = TO, though.

                    Walker has never been anything but a good teammate and hasn't had any on-field or locker room issues. Even the "rift" between him and Favre is debatable (who's at fault?), and they're still on amicable terms. Walker's beef is with the Packer organization only. And recall that he never actually "held out."

                    TO, well, he has a beef with everyone.

                    J-Walk may be a risk based on whether he'll fully recover from injury, but not a personality risk. He's an OK guy.
                    Walker doesn't have a beef. That's the problem with his stance. He was paid a generous bonus as a rookie and a nice salary through his first two seasons. He never once complained about being overpaid. In his third year he broke out with a great season and immediately demanded more money. He didn't just demand more money....he threatened a holdout and demanded Randy Moss type money. He had no right to such a deal. He had not earned such a deal. Then he came back and got hurt. He still hasn't earned the deal he is asking for.

                    His comments regarding Favre seem to have a tint of envy to them. He's pissed Favre is the player he is and that Favre commands the respect he commands. None of that is reason for Walker to have a 'beef' with the Packers.

                    Walker has no stance. He's just being a jerk. Nobody has disrespected him. It's just who he is.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tarlam!
                      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                      ..I'm guessing he went out and spent his bonus and the fact that he hasn't been able to spend like he did his rookie year (with the $5M bonus) is at the crux of this problem...
                      Let's see, 20% goes to his agent, so his taxable is 4M. What does that leave him? I don't know my way around your tax rates...
                      about $20.


                      I'm kidding. That would put him in quite a tax bracket though. Still leaves him with more than I'll ever make in my lifetime.
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                      • #12
                        Packerchatters and Matt Miller - NFL Draft Almanac are reporting the following....

                        "According to sources close to the San Francisco 49ers organization, the team has offer the Green Bay Packers a 2007 second-round pick for wide receiver Javon Walker. However, the Packers are reportedly attempting to secure a pick in the 2006 draft instead. "
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                        • #13
                          They will probably have the first pick in the draft next season so it would be a nice pick but I would rather have Seattle's 31 if available this season.
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                          • #14
                            I'd rather have a 1st or a 2nd rounder this year. If it's a 2007 pick then it better be conditional so that it can turn into a 1st.

                            I also wonder if the Packers would rather trade Walker to the AFC where they wont have to play against him year in and year out. I don't know anything to be saying that but it's usually what teams do when trading good players. They try to get them away from their schedule and frequent competition. The Broncos deal would work there.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by gureski
                              I'd rather have a 1st or a 2nd rounder this year. If it's a 2007 pick then it better be conditional so that it can turn into a 1st.

                              I also wonder if the Packers would rather trade Walker to the AFC where they wont have to play against him year in and year out. I don't know anything to be saying that but it's usually what teams do when trading good players. They try to get them away from their schedule and frequent competition. The Broncos deal would work there.

                              If I'm the 49ers it would turn into a 4th if he knee didn't recover.

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