Post Game Chat With Cleft Crusty

[Bretsky]

Dear Cleft,

Another lost day for the secondary, and some more players running off the field as snaps are about to occur.

Who would be more qualified to coach this secondary. Your peer Bob McGinn or Schottenheimer ?

It seems to me at least McGinn would admit he doesn't know what the hell he's doing and let Washington take over.

Bob Sanders is starting to remind me of a ghost named Slovik. Do you see any resmemblences ? Is he in over his head ?

How would you rate his adjustments made after halftime to counter Andy Reid's offensive adjustments ?

[the_idle_threat]

Cleffty,

I didn't see much of the second half because I was too busy chugging beers, and later, whiskey. Did I miss anything positive at all in the 2nd half, or was it a complete wash?

[Cleft Crusty]

Dear Cleft,

Another lost day for the secondary, and some more players running off the field as snaps are about to occur.

Who would be more qualified to coach this secondary. Your peer Bob McGinn or Schottenheimer ?

It seems to me at least McGinn would admit he doesn't know what the hell he's doing and let Washington take over.

Bob Sanders is starting to remind me of a ghost named Slovik. Do you see any resmemblences ? Is he in over his head ?

How would you rate his adjustments made after halftime to counter Andy Reid's offensive adjustments ?

There were some positives from the defense. They got four sacks, they contained McNabb for much of the game. They just gave up too many big plays. I'll say it again - I don't understand why the coaches (or Collins, if he's the guy making the error) wouldn't want to give Carroll more help. They left him on an island. Also, the Packers played a lot of man and whenthey incresed the the number of blitzers, they left no one back. On one huge first down run by McNabb, all three LBs blitzed from the same side, leaving no one back to prevent the run. Philly also went to a "Touchdown or checkdown" offense where they would throw deep or dump it off. What surprised me is that they didn't go to it sooner.

BTW, Bob McGinn doesn't profess to be a coach. He has a lot of respect for coaches, but not for Matt Millen. Most coaches work their butts off all year, even if it's fruitless work, like it apparently is for Shottenheimer. Also, I write better than McGinn.

[Cleft Crusty]

Cleffty,

I didn't see much of the second half because I was too busy chugging beers, and later, whiskey. Did I miss anything positive at all in the 2nd half, or was it a complete wash?

Scott Wells was mostly flawles snapping the ball. I also missed a stretch, when I was out taking napricin for my lumbago.

[Bretsky]

Cleff,

I'm going to next week's game. The Rams have Bulger, Holt, Bruce, and well, does it even matter who else ?

I'm not sure the Packers secondary could cover Bud Lea, Fuzzy Thurston, and Jerry Kramer right now.

Should I begin drinking early morning so I'm so out of it I'm unable to pay attention to the game, or should I start a post game binge so I don't have to deal with the disappointment ?

[Bretsky]

Cleff,

Did Andy Reid and staff show the GB staff how to make halftime adjustments today ?

It seemed that GB came out with an effective game plan, and in the second half they were a different team and unable to make any effective adjustments. Plz comment.

[FavreChild]

Dear Cleft,

Should Bretsky be able to ask two consecutive questions (especially when one is redundant to mine)?

Nevermind whether Bretsky should drink next weekend - is he drunk now?

[Cleft Crusty]

Cleff,

I'm going to next week's game. The Rams have Bulger, Holt, Bruce, and well, does it even matter who else ?

I'm not sure the Packers secondary could cover Bud Lea, Fuzzy Thurston, and Jerry Kramer right now.

Should I begin drinking early morning so I'm so out of it I'm unable to pay attention to the game, or should I start a post game binge so I don't have to deal with the disappointment ?

I'd go with the post-game binge. That's what I do after answering these questions. It also kills the pain in my hip replacement. I should have spent the extra money on the ceramic one.

It's hard to tell whether the defense is giving up big plays because of scheme, individual errors, or both. Carroll played his worst football, but the Packers called man coverage a lot - presumeably to allow for more pass rush. Nothing worked in the stretch of 11 minuites where the game got out of hand.

[Cleft Crusty]

Cleff,

Did Andy Reid and staff show the GB staff how to make halftime adjustments today ?

It seemed that GB came out with an effective game plan, and in the second half they were a different team and unable to make any effective adjustments. Plz comment.

On the go ahead FG drive, the Eagles gave the Packers a steady diet of run, which seemed to surprise the Packers. Then thye came back with deep throws. Green Bay also seemed to take more chances with blitzing and man coverage. Their man coverage was obliterated.

[Cleft Crusty]

Dear Cleft,

Should Bretsky be able to ask two consecutive questions (especially when one is redundant to mine)?

Nevermind whether Bretsky should drink next weekend - is he drunk now?

If there were more questions I could ignore the bad and comment on the good. For the record, I just assume everyone who submits a question is drunk. Certainly the quality of typing leads one to believe that.

[Fosco33]

Q - What did Favre pull in his shoulder? Or did he tear something?

I just have the initial report - that he suffered a minor concussion. It appeared to me that the initial hit was on his tricep of his throwing arm and possible on the ribcage. The blow came from underneath, so there could be some shoulder damage there. He also twisted his neck hitting clifton on the way down. But the real question is this: Why was he still in the game at 31-9. Reminds me of the time Lynn Dickey was seriously injured in a blowout loss, just because Bart Starr had too much pride to pull him. I didn't think McCarthy had as much of his ego tied up into meaningless points at the end of a blowout, but perhaps he's as big a fool as Starr was.

No offense, but you're a hypocrite. When they were getting trounced by the Bears, many of us said M3 was crazy for leaving Brett in there - and you recanted that a QB shouldn't be pulled. Well, which is it?

[Cleft Crusty]

Q - What did Favre pull in his shoulder? Or did he tear something?

I just have the initial report - that he suffered a minor concussion. It appeared to me that the initial hit was on his tricep of his throwing arm and possible on the ribcage. The blow came from underneath, so there could be some shoulder damage there. He also twisted his neck hitting clifton on the way down. But the real question is this: Why was he still in the game at 31-9. Reminds me of the time Lynn Dickey was seriously injured in a blowout loss, just because Bart Starr had too much pride to pull him. I didn't think McCarthy had as much of his ego tied up into meaningless points at the end of a blowout, but perhaps he's as big a fool as Starr was.

No offense, but you're a hypocrite. When they were getting trounced by the Bears, many of us said M3 was crazy for leaving Brett in there - and you recanted that a QB shouldn't be pulled. Well, which is it?

I don't recall the question, but the principle is that you don't leave your QB in to let him get killed by a pass rush from a defense with it's ears pinned back late in the game. There are circumstances in which you might leave him in. In a rivalry game, in your first game as coach, the first game of the season, and needing to establish something, you might leave him in to just get more reps, to allow the young offense to get more experience with your starting QB, even if you're handing off the ball.

No offense, but really, what the hell do you know about it? I like how all you know nothing fans come on here trying to tell an NFL coach how he should run his team. What experience do you have running an NFL offense, or making sure a group of players get and remain cohesive. I bet you haven't even led a group in anything more significant than a trip to the john to puke.

Good Night!

[Fosco33]

Q - What did Favre pull in his shoulder? Or did he tear something?

I just have the initial report - that he suffered a minor concussion. It appeared to me that the initial hit was on his tricep of his throwing arm and possible on the ribcage. The blow came from underneath, so there could be some shoulder damage there. He also twisted his neck hitting clifton on the way down. But the real question is this: Why was he still in the game at 31-9. Reminds me of the time Lynn Dickey was seriously injured in a blowout loss, just because Bart Starr had too much pride to pull him. I didn't think McCarthy had as much of his ego tied up into meaningless points at the end of a blowout, but perhaps he's as big a fool as Starr was.

No offense, but you're a hypocrite. When they were getting trounced by the Bears, many of us said M3 was crazy for leaving Brett in there - and you recanted that a QB shouldn't be pulled. Well, which is it?

I don't recall the question, but the principle is that you don't leave your QB in to let him get killed by a pass rush from a defense with it's ears pinned back late in the game. There are circumstances in which you might leave him in. In a rivalry game, in your first game as coach, the first game of the season, and needing to establish something, you might leave him in to just get more reps, to allow the young offense to get more experience with your starting QB, even if you're handing off the ball.

No offense, but really, what the hell do you know about it? I like how all you know nothing fans come on here trying to tell an NFL coach how he should run his team. What experience do you have running an NFL offense, or making sure a group of players get and remain cohesive. I bet you haven't even led a group in anything more significant than a trip to the john to puke.

Good Night!

Ohh, someone's panties are in a bunch.

I find it funny that you contradict yourself then back it up w/ irrational points and resort to insults. I know enough that when a game is over - on either end of a blowout - that a young team needs to get reps for the backup and future of the team.



BTW, this no nothing fan has made many bold, correct predictions on this forum and is leading a spread pool and near the top in this forum's pickem league.

You do not no me.

[mraynrand]

Fosco,

I hope you understand that Crusty is a persona and are having fun with it. I definitely wouldn't take it too seriously.

[Zool]

No offense, but really, what the hell do you know about it? I like how all you know nothing fans come on here trying to tell an NFL coach how he should run his team. What experience do you have running an NFL offense, or making sure a group of players get and remain cohesive. I bet you haven't even led a group in anything more significant than a trip to the john to puke.

Good Night!

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