Positives:

[packrulz]

The positives so far this season are:




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Is that you, Wist?

[Tarlam!]

Wow! I guess I didn't know that but it's sort of encouraging in a way. Thanks for the "bitch slap" Tarlem! Just kidding.

Rulz, the only reason I looked it up first thing this morning, was because I absolutely believed it also to be true, that our D must have gotton tired in the second half, for being on the field too long.

I was looking for obvious reasons as to what happened! Sorry about that!

[packrulz]

Wow! I guess I didn't know that but it's sort of encouraging in a way. Thanks for the "bitch slap" Tarlem! Just kidding.

Rulz, the only reason I looked it up first thing this morning, was because I absolutely believed it also to be true, that our D must have gotton tired in the second half, for being on the field too long.

I was looking for obvious reasons as to what happened! Sorry about that!

Nah, no problem. I was thinking the same thing. I still think it's a positive they had the ball that much. If they reduce turnovers, they can win.

[Patler]

The positives so far this season are:




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Is that you, Wist?

Just Patler being a wiseguy! I see a few positives:

1. I do feel good about the young linemen. As I wrote in another post, they have a long way to go yet, but I get the feeling there is something there to work with.

2. Jennings

3. Kickers, MAYBE! I'm not sold on either one just yet. I would like to see Rayner be close on misses, rather than hear the announcers say "He missed it!" about the time it clears the line of scrimmage. I like Ryan's leg strength, but will he ever get enough hangtime for fair catches to be routine? He has only 1 in 22 kicks. A couple times last night I held my breath with no coverage guys in sight as the returner caught the ball. Tied for 3rd in gross averag, but 29th in net distance.

[FritzDontBlitz]

carroll just got cut. check www.packers.com

[mission]

I disagree that Hawk was unimpressive, I saw him running around and past blocks quite a bit.

"running around and past blocks quite a bit"... that sentence is a bit short. i was expecting something that ended with a big T word.

im a big hawk fan -- always have been -- but we didnt draft him #5 to run around and past blocks. we drafted him to make a shitload of tackles, blow people up and be a playmaker.

im not saying he's not and the last thing i want is to defend some phantom statement of me saying he's a bust. i dont think he is but i also expect more out of him (rookie or not) and want to see that intensity that makes him so special. hell, he didnt even seem that pissed off when they scored right in front of him at the goal line. sure he doesnt get excited about a sack (awww, what a real packer person) but he didnt seem too disappointed when he fucked up either.

who knows, i really dont... hell, i wonder how much of what we've seen thus far is just a product of the system and environment.

maybe some day we'll find out.

[HarveyWallbangers]

We don't have to play in Philadelphia for a few years!!!!

Not necessarily.

[K-town]

We don't have to play in Philadelphia for a few years!!!!

Not necessarily.

Next year, I believe it's Philly in Green Bay. Here's my reasoning: last year we played the NFC South. This year, it's the NFC West. Thus in 2007 we HAVE to play the NFC East, including the Iggles. Since we played them in Philly in 2004 (our last go-round with NFC East teams), we should expect to play them at home. Where the home-field advantage is...
Nevermind.

[The Shadow]

Looks like a young, growing team to me.
I don't at all think McCarthy looked 'alone' on the sideline.
He is building/rebuilding a team with inexperienced players & it will take time.
A little patience is required - we are not going to be a contender every year!
Try to enjoy the growth spurts.
All will be well.

[Fritz]

"I don't see a lot of positives for this year. WE have too many young guys making mistakes that cost games."

I disagree with this statement, Greg. What's frustrating to me is that some of the most crucial mistakes are being made by the veterans. Driver dropped two huge, huge passes. He dropped a touchdown catch early on, and of course the big first down drop where it looked like he could run for about three days. Franks dropping passes, Clifton and Tauscher getting bagged for holding, Al Harris getting nailed for face masking, and on, and on. The rooks aren't necessarily lights out, but I get frustrated that so many of the key mistakes come from the veterans.

I also don't agree with Patler about Ryan. I think that he needs to improve his hang time, yes, but I think his 29th net ranking has as much or more to do with the crappy coverage than with his hang time.

I think TT has found both his kicker and punter. IF they continue to improve. But they've shown some spark. As have the three rookie guards.

I am actually guardedly optimistic. I agree that MM should have run the ball more - I saw Morency gain more yards in the first half and early in the second than I've seen the Pack gain in any other game, but I also like the way Favre is playing. Until they fall way behind, he's being put in a position to make smart plays and move the team.

This is a work in progress. Now, aren't there some crazies up there in northern Wisconsin, the kind of Silence-of-the-Lambs types who could be convinced to lure Schottonheimer into their home and dump him in some root cellar and feed him scraps of leather until the season is over?

Promote Lionel Washington.

Bring back Bates!

[HarveyWallbangers]

I mostly agree with you, Fritz.

[woodbuck27]

Other criticisms:

Our Secondary is a step out still at present, and Ahmad Carroll looked worse than just terrible to me. He's looking more now ...like a clear bust as a first round draft pick..a waste.

He's not going to get it !!! Hands... hands... hands and punk ass dirty crap. He makes me sick.

I won't be sorry to see him go if I see much more of that BS. he needs to have Coach Mike Mccarthy to kick his silly ass. He was the worst player on OUR side. USELESS FLESH !!" woodbuck27

Well I just came back on line and this isn't surprising news to me. Enough is enough. Maybe Ahmad Carroll will get it in another Organization? His style of play disgusted me last night.

Packers Release CB Ahmad Carroll

posted 10/03/2006

The Green Bay Packers on Tuesday released cornerback Ahmad Carroll. Executive Vice President, General Manager and Director of Football Operations Ted Thompson made the announcement.

Carroll, the Packers' first-round selection in the 2004 NFL Draft, played 34 games in three seasons, starting 28 contests. He had 104 tackles (95 solo), three interceptions, three sacks, 26 passes defensed, one forced fumble and one fumble recovery.

Comment woodbuck27:

That is so sad! Nevertheless... he was killing us.

GO PACK GO ! [b]We will defeat "the RAMS".[/