Carroll Released

[Bossman641]

Quick question

On the TD pass was Collins supposed to be over the top with inside coverage? It appeared as though Carroll gave Lewis the inside and played him on his outside shoulder. He was still too far behind him and it could have just been Carroll being stupid and giving up the inside. Collins did come running over as the ball was caught though. Just makes me wonder whether Collins was late on rotating over.

[mission]

if anything, i just like it for the Fear of Loss impulse factor that it creates on the team. this isnt roses and lollypops guys, start playing some football or you're done.

we're obviously rebuilding anyway and since this week im on the super negative bandwagon, screw it, lets clean up where needed and build in the same.

[MJZiggy]

Carroll said it was just him being stupid. He said he ran by him.

[the_idle_threat]

My initial reaction is also to question who will take his spot, but with performances like last night's, TT must have decided that he himself could fill the spot better than AC without much dropoff.

I'll bet the reasoning behind this move is that AC not only failed to progress, but his uncoachable attitude makes it unlikely he ever will progress. That, and he has no field awareness, and such a thing can't be taught. Of course, we'll never know.

Watch him sign with another team very quickly, and fail to make an impression there as well.

[Bossman641]

Wow - I'm stunned by this. Put me in the 'bad idea' camp.
I think it was a knee jerk reaction, and am not convinced it was a good one. You can tell me that he goes from nickel back to off the team that quickly.

Just watched the video Ziggy posted - the guy looked like he was being geniune, and accepting responsibility. He doesn't seem to be an attitide problem any more, and I'm pretty sure we're on the hook for his entire salary, so why not just let him ride the pine???

I think hypotethising about Blackmon stepping in is ridiculous. He hasn't even seen the field with real bullets yet. I don't know who's supposed to be next best, but I think you demote Carrol, promote someone else, and see what happens. If the new guy works out, fine - cut Carrol if you want. But if the next guy does a 'deer in the headlights' impression, thrown Carrol in while you work on plan C.

Agree 100%

I guess the move was made as a sign to the rest of the team. But why not just demote Carroll for a little while. I highly doubt they'll be able to find someone to step in and play nickel right away.

[No Mo Moss]

Yeah this latest secondary shake-up is going to make it harder for us to run the table on the remaining schedule. We still will though.

[MJZiggy]

Mike McCarthy hinted Carroll would be let go in the post game press conference.

"We'll make that decision tomorrow" or something like that.

When I heard it, I interpreted it to mean they were thinking about cutting him.

It's not really a big surprise to me based on what Mike said last night about Carroll.

To be fair, the reporter did ask flat out how Carroll keeps his job after a performance like that...

[MJZiggy]

Maybe they move KRob to corner? He did do a pretty good job of it last night. Yes, I'm kidding.

[vince]

Wow - I'm stunned by this. Put me in the 'bad idea' camp.
I think it was a knee jerk reaction, and am not convinced it was a good one. You can tell me that he goes from nickel back to off the team that quickly.

Just watched the video Ziggy posted - the guy looked like he was being geniune, and accepting responsibility. He doesn't seem to be an attitide problem any more, and I'm pretty sure we're on the hook for his entire salary, so why not just let him ride the pine???

I think hypotethising about Blackmon stepping in is ridiculous. He hasn't even seen the field with real bullets yet. I don't know who's supposed to be next best, but I think you demote Carrol, promote someone else, and see what happens. If the new guy works out, fine - cut Carrol if you want. But if the next guy does a 'deer in the headlights' impression, thrown Carrol in while you work on plan C.

Agree 100%

I guess the move was made as a sign to the rest of the team. But why not just demote Carroll for a little while. I highly doubt they'll be able to find someone to step in and play nickel right away.

I like this decision - a lot. Ahmad Carroll has had AMPLE opportunity and has failed at every turn. Accountability is vital to this team. What he said after the game is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT. Of course he's responsible for his failures. I'm glad to see that MM and TT agree with him.

"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." Vince Lombardi

[CyclonePackFan]

Thoughts:

What a message to the team. Poor performance will NOT be tolerated. Look for David Martin to be on the chopping block shortly.

Ahmad Carroll was never a good football player. He was an athlete who played football, and as such, never developed the way he should have. This cut was long overdue.

Isn't our secondary already one of the worst in the country? Honestly, it really can't get THAT much worse by losing our biggest liability.

There are lots of people who can run fast and jump high, which is ironically all the skill that Carroll had. There has to be SOMEBODY on the waiver wire we can find who can run fast and jump high, and maybe even has some football skill, too!

*note, I forgot about holding. That was Carroll's greatest skill.

[Patler]

What he said after the game is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT. Of course he's responsible for his failures. I'm glad to see that MM and TT agree with him.

Ya, its totally different for Driver to get up and accept responsibility for a bad performance, and for Carroll to do the same thing. Carroll has performed well, but never for a full game. He always seems to have that lapse in each game. Realizing it doesn't matter much if you can't change it.

I wonder if this was a joint decision, or TT's or MM's? Last year Sherman clearly implied that it was his desire to cut Thomas, and he called TT and asked him to do it. I wonder where it started with Carroll.

[red]

thank god, that was an absolutely pathetic game he had last night

my only problem is this should have happened a year ago

who cares who they get to replace him, he was total shit, if he ever had a good play, it was because the ref didn't call him that time for the holding he was doing

now they need to drop the secondary coach, NOW

[J-Rok]

Not to toot my horn too much, but I posted this about a minute after it was released.

Don't worry, I'll be here all year for breaking news and all that good stuff. You can applaud now.

[BF4MVP]

Not to toot my horn too much, but I posted this about a minute after it was released.

Don't worry, I'll be here all year for breaking news and all that good stuff. You can applaud now.

LOL nice work Rok

[SkinBasket]

Thoughts:

What a message to the team. Poor performance will NOT be tolerated. Look for David Martin to be on the chopping block shortly.

LOL. Then 80% of this team should be looking for jobs and 50% of the coaches.

I'm with Guiness. At least use the guy on ST. That would have been enough of a "message."