Carroll Released

[Patler]

It's no different for ANYONE to accept responsibility for their failure. It doesn't change the fact that they failed. That's the bottom line. I want guys that can consistently cover on this team, no matter how much - or little - they accept responsibility when they fail.

Well, now I have to disagree with you. Everyone fails at some point. No one is perfect in every situation every time. Driver had a bad night. It happens. He can accept responsibility and move on. He has already had lights-out performances this season and will again.

Carroll knew what was wrong, but continued to do the same things. If you can't correct it you have to leave.

[pack4to84]

badgepack wrote

So whose practice squad do we rob?

Bears they are bound to have talent on there's

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I don't understand two things:

Number 1: Why not make him a bench or special teams player. His contact is very cheap and he's better than any 4th corner we have

Number 2: Why not trade him? even if it's for a 6th or 7th.

Overall I don't like this move.

[vince]

It's no different for ANYONE to accept responsibility for their failure. It doesn't change the fact that they failed. That's the bottom line. I want guys that can consistently cover on this team, no matter how much - or little - they accept responsibility when they fail.

Well, now I have to disagree with you. Everyone fails at some point. No one is perfect in every situation every time. Driver had a bad night. It happens. He can accept responsibility and move on. He has already had lights-out performances this season and will again.

Carroll knew what was wrong, but continued to do the same things. If you can't correct it you have to leave.

Not sure if we really disagree, Patler. I'm not advocating for cutting Driver. I'm just saying that it's fine and dandy that Caroll accepted responsibility, but some people appear to be using the fact that he's sorry and accepts responsibility as an argument for keeping him on the team. The fact that he accpepts responsibility is irrelevant to the decision that's been made.

[Joemailman]

i'm not a huge Carroll fan...BUT. I saw some potential in him, and yeah, he's struggling this year, but you know what, I think Al Harris is doing worse than he is. I think there could have been better things to do than to just simply cut a 23 year old with blazing speed. I donno...i'm not a huge fan of what TT did today. we're basically cutting our nickle back, for????what? now who is the nickle back? Carroll is a pretty solid tackler, of which i think he is our best tackling Corner we have.

That being said, the day we drafted him, I completely expected us to take Chris Gamble....DAMNIT.

When the best think that can be said about a cornerback is that he is a good tackler, that in itself suggests a problem. However, I can't help having a nagging feeling that Schottzy is just as much of a problem. The three holdovers from last years secondary, (Harris, Collins, and Carroll) are all playing at a lower level this season. I can't help believing that the change in coaching has a lot to do with that.

[Rastak]

It's no different for ANYONE to accept responsibility for their failure. It doesn't change the fact that they failed. That's the bottom line. I want guys that can consistently cover on this team, no matter how much - or little - they accept responsibility when they fail.

Well, now I have to disagree with you. Everyone fails at some point. No one is perfect in every situation every time. Driver had a bad night. It happens. He can accept responsibility and move on. He has already had lights-out performances this season and will again.

Carroll knew what was wrong, but continued to do the same things. If you can't correct it you have to leave.

But can't you figure that out during camp and right before the final cuts?

My thoughts on Carroll are this.....he still has potential but I'll be surprised if he ever realizes it in this league.

[vince]

I don't understand to things:

Number 1: Why not make him a bench or special teams player. His contact is very cheap and he's better than any 4th corner we have

Number 2: Why not trade him? even if it's for a 6th or 7th.

Overall I don't like this move.

1. As long as Carroll is occupying a roster spot, there's another player that we could have on the team that can be something other than a player that consistently gives up large chunks of yardage and a lot of points for the opposition.

2. Trading him is not worth the only kind of player that anyone would give up for him. A player that probably would also need to be cut. Cut your losses and go out and find a practice squad guy from another team that has shown the ability to guard someone without hanging on to their jersy for 30 yards.

There's another game to get ready for. Holding him on the roster even for the time it would take to find someone stupid enough to make a trade for him (which could be awhile) means that the team is that much farther behind getting ready for St. Louis.

[MacCool606]

I can just imagine the conversation this morning:
MM: Dammit Kurt - get your ass in here
Kurt: coming sir
MM: What the Hell is going on with your unit - you are a disgrace to this team - you don't remind me of Packer People at all!
Kurt: Well - it wasn't my fault Mike, sir, it was, it was, it was Ahmad's fault - yeah that's it - it was Ahmad! We should cut him.
Well OK Kurt - if you say so - but you better fix it by next game.

I think Kurt should do the only honorable thing and resign.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I don't understand to things:

Number 1: Why not make him a bench or special teams player. His contact is very cheap and he's better than any 4th corner we have

Number 2: Why not trade him? even if it's for a 6th or 7th.

Overall I don't like this move.

1. As long as Carroll is occupying a roster spot, there's another player that we could have on the team that can be something other than a player that consistently gives up large chunks of yardage and a lot of points for the opposition.

2. Trading him is not worth the only kind of player that anyone would give up for him. A player that probably would also need to be cut. Cut your losses and go out and find a practice squad guy from another team that has shown the ability to guard someone without hanging on to their jersy for 30 yards.

There's another game to get ready for. Holding him on the roster even for the time it would take to find someone stupid enough to make a trade for him (which could be awhile) means that the team is that much farther behind getting ready for St. Louis.

I understand that you can't get a good player for him, but why not trade for a late pick at least?

[BallHawk]

I can't remember in the draft Carroll was drafted, was he the popular pick, or was it Chirs Gamble. What was the reaction when Carroll was drafted.

[Lurker64]

I understand that you can't get a good player for him, but why not trade for a late pick at least?

Perhaps Ted realizes he doesn't need help finding more late round draft picks? Or possibly he realizes that with more draft picks, he would have to cut a good portion of his draft class.

[vince]

I don't understand to things:

Number 1: Why not make him a bench or special teams player. His contact is very cheap and he's better than any 4th corner we have

Number 2: Why not trade him? even if it's for a 6th or 7th.

Overall I don't like this move.

1. As long as Carroll is occupying a roster spot, there's another player that we could have on the team that can be something other than a player that consistently gives up large chunks of yardage and a lot of points for the opposition.

2. Trading him is not worth the only kind of player that anyone would give up for him. A player that probably would also need to be cut. Cut your losses and go out and find a practice squad guy from another team that has shown the ability to guard someone without hanging on to their jersy for 30 yards.

There's another game to get ready for. Holding him on the roster even for the time it would take to find someone stupid enough to make a trade for him (which could be awhile) means that the team is that much farther behind getting ready for St. Louis.

I understand that you can't get a good player for him, but why not trade for a late pick at least?

If you're a GM for an NFL franchise, which would you rather have?

1. a player who's proven to be a major liability as a CB, or...
2. a sixth round draft pick to use on someone who could possibly turn into a significant contributor to your SUCCESS?

Yeah, I thought you'd take #2... So would the real GM's in the league.

[pittstang5]

Sign me up on the shocker wagon...I'm really surprised that he was just released and TT didn't get anything for him.....but....then again, maybe no one wanted to give anything for him. I see him going to Cleveland - don't they need CB help.

I have an idea about who to replace him. Wasn't TT and the Pack looking at Ahmad Plummer around the time they signed Woodson. Didn't TT say that if they have some injuries or something else, Plummer might be a possibility. Is he still available? Maybe this is TTs back up plan. I don't know much about Plummer, but maybe he can help.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

DD and Mark T. are both 7th rounders and are two of the best players on are team.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Sign me up on the shocker wagon...I'm really surprised that he was just released and TT didn't get anything for him.....but....then again, maybe no one wanted to give anything for him. I see him going to Cleveland - don't they need CB help.

I have an idea about who to replace him. Wasn't TT and the Pack looking at Ahmad Plummer around the time they signed Woodson. Didn't TT say that if that if they have some injuries or something else, Plummer might be a possibility. Is he still available? Maybe this is TTs back up plan.

What a stupid back up plan it would be.......