Carroll Released

[Fritz]

Wow. I'm surprised. I thought the guy played pretty well for the first half. He bites on the hard moves, which is why he can play tight on short routes but also why he gets burned deep. I also thought that on a couple of the long routes the defensive line gave McNabb about a year to throw the ball.

I am with Tony in that I wonder if a guy like Carroll could have played safety. He could have sat back and read the play, and he sure could tackle.

I don't think, though, that this is a bold move. It was, after all, Shermy's pick. Bold is cutting your own first round draft choice only two and a half years after it happens.

Shermy's entire first day draft class of 2004 is now gone. And people wonder why the Packers are floundering. Sherman drafted one pro bowler, Javon Walker, one good defensive end, Aaron Kampman, one pretty good middle linebacker, Nick Barnett, one average center, Scott Wells, traded for a solid corner, Al Harris, and found a couple of spare parts. That's five starters in three drafts. Not so good.

[wist43]

I just heard...

Very suprised... I figured they'd just keep on with the "we'll get it fixed" routine.

That defense is a God-awful mess... Maybe there's hope they'll can Schottenheimer soon???

[oregonpackfan]

The Carroll case is another example of why Pro GM's should be very hesitant to sign someone who declares early while still enrolled in college.

Like many early declarees, Carroll was not ready for the Pro game athletically as well as emotionally. While a few college juniors like Reggie Bush are ready for the pro level, the majority of them are not ready and struggle mightily at the pro level.

Perhaps some team will take a chance on team and help him resurrect his career. It seems likely that his career is over. He simply should have stayed in college another year.

OPF

[CyclonePackFan]

I can't remember in the draft Carroll was drafted, was he the popular pick, or was it Chirs Gamble. What was the reaction when Carroll was drafted.

Don't know about the consensus, but I was SCREAMING at my TV for Gamble.

Oh yeah, now I remember, the consensus was "Who?"

[Zool]

I see him going to the Pats actually. They are always short on DB's and if anyone can coach that moron its Bellichek.

[mission]

I see him going to the Pats actually. They are always short on DB's and if anyone can coach that moron its Bellichek.

haha my buddy was saying EXACTLY this as i was reading your post... we'll see, but i wouldnt put it past the texans to bring him in.

[Tony Oday]

I see him going to the Pats actually. They are always short on DB's and if anyone can coach that moron its Bellichek.

lol I can imagine that conversation:

AC: yeah Id like to play for you!

BB: you have to stop holding people.

AC: I can do that!

BB: THEN WHY THE HELL ARE YOU HOLDING ON TO MY SWEATSHIRT!

AC: Ah man thats my fault I take full responsibility for that.

BB: No prob, are you a good teamate?

AC: Hell yeah!

Troy Bown: Coach can you throw me the athletic tape?

AC: *swats down the athletic tape in mid air* OH HELL YEAH I JUST OWNED
THAT! DID YOU SEE THAT PLAY!!! HOLY CRAP I AM THE WORLDS GREATEST!!!

BB: THEN WHY ARE YOU HOLDING ON TO MY SWEAT SHIRTAGAIN!

AC: Oh man I just have a rep its hard to get away from that I didnt even touch you! BAD call BAD call!

BB: I dont think this is going to work out.

[RashanGary]

I don't think McCarthy gave the "we're expected to lose" speach before the game.

I'm pretty sure those guys are responsible for winning or they will be replaced ASAP.

[K-town]

Tony Oday: CLASSIC!
BOMNF

[HarveyWallbangers]

Madtown is eerily quiet about his dog, Carroll, getting cut.

[retailguy]

Madtown is eerily quiet about his dog, Carroll, getting cut.

Haven't seen him on yet today, I'm sure he'll weigh in when he gets here.

[woodbuck27]

http://packers.com/news/releases/2006/10/03/1/

I'm speechless.

I'm guessing then MJ that you didn't see the way he played last night. No you simply couldn't have seen the game.

Ahmad Carroll played terrible and he must have been "under the gun" and well he was released.

He' ll likely land in Houston, as it's a natural fit...

before you can say Texans 1000 times.

I'll be surprised if that's not the case.

What a huge disappointment he was last night.

[SkinBasket]

Dead on, red. The fact that he is no longer occupying a valuable roster spot is positive enough.

And what, exactly, is so valuable about a Packer's roster spot these days? Firing an easy scapegoat is the coward's route. Owning up to the fact that this defensive unit is perhaps the most poorly coached in the league would be a start.

Carroll had more value on ST than at least 10 guys eating up roster spots. Making a statement is one thing. Throwing away a commodity you could use is another. This team has no direction and no effen clue wha they're doing to stop the other team. As I said in another post, it's simply 11 guys acting independantly out there on defense right now. Say hello to a 13 loss season.

Slow-wit is starting to look like an fricken genius right now compared to what we got.

[woodbuck27]

I think this is a "cart-before-the-horse" deal. I would really be happy if Schotts was dumped - I wouldn't care if someone else picked him up. I'll have to go put a post in the Fire Schottenheimer thread!

Don't be so sure of that.

That move would have been too obvious.Things like that .."the obvious" don't seem to go down in Green Bay.

Setting that aside it was ugly to watch Carroll not perform last night.

I hope he's not " just the scapegoat ". There is too much wrong with OUR Secondary and I blame Coaching as well as the player In this case of Carroll maybe it was time but that can't be "just it'.

NFL football in Green Bay is a long ways from the way it's handled in hockey... the NHL

If this was hockey (in the NHL) there would be... whole scale changes from GM on down. NOONE WOULD BE SAFE !!

Why should anyone be safe ? When we start 1-3 in 2006 and since OUR GM Ted Thompson... we are a whooping 5-15 now.

That SUCKS !!!

That's ugly Ted Thompson. To be (not to be) under YOU... 5-15 or a LOSING percentage of 0.250... how much worse do YOU want it Ted ?

Fire OUR Secondary's Coach tonight! Get rid of himand be accountable for a change.

Your on a short rope Ted !! Your days in Green Bay will soon be over unless "the Green Bay Packers have ** this plan Ted.

** A plan to not be embarassed...maybe even WIN Football games.

Winning Ted!! A new concept for YOU in Green Bay.

BE ACCOUNTABLE and FIRE OUR... not a Secondary Coach ...FIRE HIM !!Cutting the chaff and leaving some good if it exists for continuity.

Even Ted Thompson can't FIRE... ALL the players.

The Secondary's Coach Schottenheimer has to go out with the wash water.

Come see - come saw.

GO PACK GO ! The Rams are OURS.

[The Leaper]

I hate this move.

Don't give me any BS about "sending a message" when Kurt "Worthless Turd" Schottenheimer is still employed by the team. What kind of message does THAT send to the players...when some have come out and openly advocated the promotion of Washington?

Carroll showed improvement last year under a REAL coaching staff. No, he still wasn't starting caliber...but he showed some ability in coverage. I don't think it is coincidence that Harris, Collins, and Carroll have all regressed this season.

The Worthless Turd should be the one in the unemployment line today. Carroll may very well have belonged there too at some point...but I think the wrong person was terminated today.