Carroll Released

[Packers4Ever]

Holy crap is right. I guess I can't say I didn't see it coming but man...I'm still shocked!

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I figured it was just a matter of time, I think many did
and the time was right.

[woodbuck27]

Dead on, red. The fact that he is no longer occupying a valuable roster spot is positive enough.

And what, exactly, is so valuable about a Packer's roster spot these days? Firing an easy scapegoat is the coward's route. Owning up to the fact that this defensive unit is perhaps the most poorly coached in the league would be a start.

Carroll had more value on ST than at least 10 guys eating up roster spots. Making a statement is one thing. Throwing away a commodity you could use is another. This team has no direction and no effen clue wha they're doing to stop the other team. As I said in another post, it's simply 11 guys acting independantly out there on defense right now. Say hello to a 13 loss season.

Slow-wit is starting to look like an fricken genius right now compared to what we got.

YES !

It's time for a gut check ...for something REAL SkinBasket.

The Chemistry on the Green Bay Packers last night... wasn't .

NO CHEMISTRY.

Watching that game I couldn't believe my eyes. I was literally "in shock".

The only plus was the DL that played decently. We got some life out of OUR TE"s as well; and the OL didn't look really all that bad... because I felt that (especially on the long pass) Brett Favre was impatient.

Favre needed to wait a little longer (and he had the time ) before putting air under tha ball. He was too juiced up after we fell behind.

Favre looks ALL alone on the sidelines... and that wasn't as I understood it was this season in first three games.

Coach McCarthy looked alone, and he looked like he was "in some morph zone'.

McCarthy looked frozen.

[PTPaQ]

Wow, what a moronic move.

Ahmad is struggling but we dont have the luxory of cutting him like this.

If anything, demote him to the dimeback, give Blackmon or Bush a shot, he would be a great special teamer, punt coverage, kick off coverage.

Now we have NO nickel, NO depth.

Just stupid.

[Packers4Ever]

I feel like a fool for saying this (just warning you in advance) - but I'm afraid he'll be picked up right away - and become a decent CB for someone else. I was kinda hoping that we would stash him someplace until we had a decent secondary coach.

Carroll will be picked up immediately. He is a solid player and he is not afraid of contact.

We're all gunshy, leftover from JWalk. Why couldn't
someone do something with him here, in 2 full years?
He did the same bad stunts over and over.

[RashanGary]

I agree w/ the ST thing. He might have been one of our top 3 ST players. He made a statement this year that his goal was to get 6 ints and play dominate ST's.

I think it sends a good message though. I don't then anyone is sitting around TT's lockerroom saying "We're expected to lose so don't sweat it" I don't think anyone will be getting the "We're expected to lose" speach any time soon either

[digitaldean]

Yes, maybe keeping Carroll on ST would have been a thought.

But, I say, good riddance to another Mike Charmin wasted pick.

Carroll had grill marks on his butt last night he got burned so bad.

Has he made plays? Sure. But his negatives far outweigh the positives. The guy could wear boxing gloves and still find a way to rip off a WR's jersey so the guy doesn't burn him. Carroll never should have made the final roster. Horton should have been kept instead.

As others have mentioned, Blackmon has to be ready and Bush will be the nickel.

WE ARE 31ST AGAINST THE PASS! We are going nowhere in this season anyway. We need to shake something up for crying out loud!

If things don't change, they should ditch Schottenheimer AND his STUPID bracelets.

[b bulldog]

How long till he gets signed in Houston?

[woodbuck27]

I agree w/ the ST thing. He might have been one of our top 3 ST players. He made a statement this year that his goal was to get 6 ints and play dominate ST's.

I think it sends a good message though. I don't then anyone is sitting around TT's lockerroom saying "We're expected to lose so don't sweat it" I don't think anyone will be getting the "We're expected to lose" speach any time soon either

OUR performance last night on ST's punt coverage wasn't good at all.

How do you teach tacking " the Leroy Butler " way?

I'm sick of seeing Packers reaching for a tackle and thinking that arm tackles are a good thing.

ALL that we gained in 2005 with Coach Jim Bates..... is gone !!!

Time for some major changes, and I don't mean always using players "as the scapegoat ".

If I was on the Packers Board I would certainly be holding Ted Thompson accountable for 5 - 15.

Let's get rid of this wanna be GM and get the show back on the road.

I'm sick at where he's taken my Team.

I'm a member of the Committee to...

FIRE TED THOMPSON ASAP.

REASON and no it's not impatience, so please don't go there,

as a re-direct. I'm tired of this man.

Ted Thompson ... plain n' simple... SUCKS as OUR GM

[digitaldean]

Thoughts:

What a message to the team. Poor performance will NOT be tolerated. Look for David Martin to be on the chopping block shortly.

I'd second that one also. "Butterfingers" Bubba hasn't been any great shakes either. Unfortunately, we can't cut 2/3 of our TE's.

Carroll's dismissal should only be the first step. Schottenheimer AND Bob "Call Your Own Plays" Sanders better be held accountable also if things don't improve. (I swear Schottenheimer has photos of somebody... how does this guy keep getting coaching gigs?)

I know it's only 4 games, but McCarthy's and maybe even TT's future are going to ride on how they handle this. McCarthy and TT may not make it through year 2 if they let this type of dysfunctional secondary continue their wretched play.

[digitaldean]

Woody, I think the thing that frustrates me the most about TT is that he is always trying to find that "diamond in the rough". Something to validate that he is a bona fide GM.

The constant trading down in the mid to late rounds has not paid off. Plus if MM's tenure doesn't show even modest improvement at season's end, I will join your "Fire TT" chorus.

Firing the GM in the middle of the season will solve nothing. We can't make any big acquistions talentwise, you sure can't can the whole coaching staff.

My solution for now...
Fire Schottenheimer AND Sanders if the secondary shows no improvement by mid-season. By then we will have played Arizona and Miami. If we can't play modestly well vs. them, then they should be done.

From the time Holmy left to today...we have NEVER addressed the technique of tackling. Even when Sharper was here at the beginning of his career it stunk. Remember the razzing the Packers took after Sharper was nearly dragged 50 yds. by a Broncos WR because he didn't know how to tackle? Too many players go for the SportsCenter highlight and big hit instead of the "boring" sure tackle.

The same holds true today for some of our defensive players (not all).

[HarveyWallbangers]

What will be funny is that Carroll will be signed by some other team, and many of that team's fans will be excited about getting a former high draft pick. A lot of us were shocked Joey Thomas got cut last year. Some of us thought he may move on and do well for another team. I think he's out of the league now.

[woodbuck27]

Woody, I think the thing that frustrates me the most about TT is that he is always trying to find that "diamond in the rough". Something to validate that he is a bona fide GM.

The constant trading down in the mid to late rounds has not paid off. Plus if MM's tenure doesn't show even modest improvement at season's end, I will join your "Fire TT" chorus.

Firing the GM in the middle of the season will solve nothing. We can't make any big acquistions talentwise, you sure can't can the whole coaching staff.

My solution for now...
Fire Schottenheimer AND Sanders if the secondary shows no improvement by mid-season. By then we will have played Arizona and Miami. If we can't play modestly well vs. them, then they should be done.

From the time Holmy left to today...we have NEVER addressed the technique of tackling. Even when Sharper was here at the beginning of his career it stunk. Remember the razzing the Packers took after Sharper was nearly dragged 50 yds. by a Broncos WR because he didn't know how to tackle? Too many players go for the SportsCenter highlight and big hit instead of the "boring" sure tackle.

The same holds true today for some of our defensive players (not all).

I'll explain something to you digitaldean.

Of course I'm Canadian. So being that... I cut my teeth watching hockey..The NHL Original SIX... till today.

In the NHL in alot of the Franchises, it's not the players that are blamed for bad play and certainly not after it gets as bad as we see on OUR Packers.

ONLY 5 Wins and 15 Loss's is a total embarasment, a disgrace to me as a Packer fan, especially with Brett Favre as OUR QB.

It's a nightmare.

What I saw last night made me nearly ill... except for "the shock" effect of what went down in that game. The Eagle players so happy....

and OUR Packers nowhere.

I just HATE that. I want that to change PRONTO !

I don't believe in Ted Thompson... as he's such a flake.

It's ALL in my guts.

Five decades a sports fan, and three and a half decades an athlete that didn't understand the meaning of the word LOSING.....except with "the Packers ....1970... till Ron Wolf - Mike Holmgren - Brett Favre...

I don't want young Packer fans to have to endure that.

Ted Thompson does some things well, but overall he is one weird fella as I see him. It's in my guts that he's bad for the Packers.

I'm telling YOU and every member of PACKERRATS... that we will ALL live to really regret Ted Thompson as OUR wanna be GM. Count on that.

I'm out there early with "let's dump him already".... because I feel that need so strongly.

I go with the float on him... as alot of people here seem to believe in him but we are 5-15 since Ted Thompson..HELLO !!

How can he LOVE OUR Team and have us at 5-15? How can he be deemed a good GM and have OUR team at 5-15? He DAM near made it impossible for Brett Favre to return.

Has Ted Thompson given Brett Favre any more weapons? Well... YES his draft picks. . .bully for Ted Thompson.

His choice of a Coach cost us Jim Bates, and we can talk all around it... but now we wait 4 more games to weigh in on Defensive CO-Ordinator Sanders and Secondary Coach Schottenheimer...Good Grief.

NO !

Same players back that were deemed acceptable to GM Ted Thompason and he adds his choices in Woodson, Pickett and Manuel... that was supposed to make us better on paper.

In reality we are terrible on "D"..OUR Secondary is putrid.

WE ARE... WEAK WEAK WEAK ...OVERALL on "D"!!! Behind the LBers we see nothing.

Charles Woodson is going down to an injury just as soon as his false ego dictates that's best.

Count on it !!!

Al Harris is definitely showing the effects of missing "the OTA's" as he is clearly left out of the play " always scrambling ", and holding as bad as Ahmad Carroll has to do for some stupid reason.Ahmad Carroll had exceptional talent so what went wrong?

There would be less grab ass if you accidently wound up in a Gay bar. Not just with Ahmad Carroll. Al Harris isn't the player he was for the first 12 games last season.

I blame Ted Thompson as he arranged this mess we now see as "the Green Bay Packers".

Alot of his player moves are just not logical.

'm still pissed that Ted Thompson shoved Samkon out, and I predict that Samkon Gado will " in fact "do well in Houston.

Morency ran for 99 yards...Didn't impress me as he's not strong like Gado.

He looked like Sugar Ray Leonard on "the Eagles" last goaline stand. All they had to do was put up a hand.

I'm hard on Ted Thompson for good reason.

He's not my MOSES.

It's my guts. They don't betray me overall. Sorry for me being me all Ted Thompson lover's. Open your eyes please.

It doesn't compute what he's doing to us as he only makes us look more embarassing.

Ted Thompson's a disaster. That's "the TRUTH".

[OS PA]

Wouldn't that be funny if the Eagles picked him up this week considering they're out 2 CB's?

[woodbuck27]

What will be funny is that Carroll will be signed by some other team, and many of that team's fans will be excited about getting a former high draft pick. A lot of us were shocked Joey Thomas got cut last year. Some of us thought he may move on and do well for another team. I think he's out of the league now.

Was Joey Thomas in New Orleans for their TC or was it Houston Harvey?

He was "in fact" sent packing.

He had better try the CFL. I should check that.

I'm so into Packerrats that i don't pat alot of attention this season to the CFL overall. The Montreal Allouettes are doing OK and that's ALL my bag along with "the Greenfield Packers". The minor Leagur Program here where I live is outstanding.

[Partial]

I see him going to the Pats actually. They are always short on DB's and if anyone can coach that moron its Bellichek.

The moment I saw this thread, I left a message on my buddies facebook saying He'll be a pat by tonight. Low and behold i'm not the only one!