Carroll Released

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I see him going to the Pats actually. They are always short on DB's and if anyone can coach that moron its Bellichek.

lol I can imagine that conversation:

AC: yeah Id like to play for you!

BB: you have to stop holding people.

AC: I can do that!

BB: THEN WHY THE HELL ARE YOU HOLDING ON TO MY SWEATSHIRT!

AC: Ah man thats my fault I take full responsibility for that.

BB: No prob, are you a good teamate?

AC: Hell yeah!

Troy Bown: Coach can you throw me the athletic tape?

AC: *swats down the athletic tape in mid air* OH HELL YEAH I JUST OWNED
THAT! DID YOU SEE THAT PLAY!!! HOLY CRAP I AM THE WORLDS GREATEST!!!

BB: THEN WHY ARE YOU HOLDING ON TO MY SWEAT SHIRTAGAIN!

AC: Oh man I just have a rep its hard to get away from that I didnt even touch you! BAD call BAD call!

BB: I dont think this is going to work out.

ROFLLLLLLLLOL wtf?!? I laughed so hard at this, its late for me...

[digitaldean]

Woody,

I hear ya. I suffered through the crappy 70's AND 80's and early 90's till Bob Harlan took over and shook things up.

There is no way in HELL I want to go back to that sort of losing, NO WAY!

TT will not be fired during the middle of the season, like it or not.

We could have had a ton of weapons for Brett. Look at the duds we got stuck with (Fergy, Bubba Franks, David Martin -the perpetual project, etc.) Shermy and TT have blown away picks. We had Terry Glenn then we let him go, now look how he's doing in Dallas! Favre has had 6-7 years of very little substantial weapons. Walker was a weapon in 2004, but his me-first attitude helped get him out of town.

Look, the personnel moves are dubious at best. Carroll's heave-ho is a step in the right direction. Schotty should be next.

If this season goes out to be a 4-12 train wreck again, there will be more than those 2 gone. But Jones / Harlan may not do anything with TT or MM unless there is enough public clamour to get rid of them.

I think MM has been OK, but the jury is still out. The things holding him back are the def. coordinator and DB coach choices.

I have seen CONSECUTIVE DECADES of crappy Packer football throughout my youth and young adulthood. Accepting mediocrity won't cut it with me either. I will be on the bandwagon for TT's ouster at the end of the season if it keeps going down. Doing it right now solves nothing. The personnel moves he can make now only will affect this season. No blockbuster trades will happen before the deadline anyway.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If this season goes out to be a 4-12 train wreck again, there will be more than those 2 gone.

I really don't understand this thinking. It strikes me as sacrificing 10 goats if a plague of locusts comes, maybe it will appease the gods and the locusts won't come next year.

Didn't Jimmy Johnson endure a 1-15 rebuilding season? Did he fire his coaches?

I don't know, maybe somebody needs to be fired. But the record is so dependent on the personnel.

[MateoInMex]

Halle-fuggin'-luyah

[GBRulz]

I'm a little late in signing on tonight. I think everything has been said that I was going to say already!

Bold move and I think it's more of a message than anything else.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Was Joey Thomas in New Orleans for their TC or was it Houston Harvey?

Yes, he was in New Orleans, but got cut.

[woodbuck27]

Woody,

I hear ya. I suffered through the crappy 70's AND 80's and early 90's till Bob Harlan took over and shook things up.

There is no way in HELL I want to go back to that sort of losing, NO WAY!

TT will not be fired during the middle of the season, like it or not.

We could have had a ton of weapons for Brett. Look at the duds we got stuck with (Fergy, Bubba Franks, David Martin -the perpetual project, etc.) Shermy and TT have blown away picks. We had Terry Glenn then we let him go, now look how he's doing in Dallas! Favre has had 6-7 years of very little substantial weapons. Walker was a weapon in 2004, but his me-first attitude helped get him out of town.

Look, the personnel moves are dubious at best. Carroll's heave-ho is a step in the right direction. Schotty should be next.

If this season goes out to be a 4-12 train wreck again, there will be more than those 2 gone. But Jones / Harlan may not do anything with TT or MM unless there is enough public clamour to get rid of them.

I think MM has been OK, but the jury is still out. The things holding him back are the def. coordinator and DB coach choices.

I have seen CONSECUTIVE DECADES of crappy Packer football throughout my youth and young adulthood. Accepting mediocrity won't cut it with me either. I will be on the bandwagon for TT's ouster at the end of the season if it keeps going down. Doing it right now solves nothing. The personnel moves he can make now only will affect this season. No blockbuster trades will happen before the deadline anyway.

Thanks for the slap on the back digitaldean. I hear you.

I don't want to come off as some sort of devient freak tyrant but Ted Thompson..

Uuuurrrggghhhh !!

He piss's me off. Somewhat...

I'll allow sleep to heal me... for awhile (till the next time...haha

GO PACK GO !

Rams in Lambeau...tackle em'... down em' ! !

[Kiwon]

I'm a little late in signing on tonight. I think everything has been said that I was going to say already!

Bold move and I think it's more of a message than anything else.

Me three. I'm late to the party as well....

I'm torn between demoting the guy and cutting him. They had the option to deactivate him for some games if they wanted to send a message and then cut him if someone else steps up his play.

Cutting him straight out means that you are throwing a newbie straight into the fire. That's as much an invitation to an opposing qb as keeping Carroll on the field.

At this point it looks like the 2006 Packers are going to be challenging the 2004 Packers for the most points and passing yards allowed in a season.

[MadtownPacker]

Well it's fully sunk in and all I can say is what a classless move by Ted Thompson. Carroll played hard and always showed pride in being a Packer. People hated his boasting and bragging and never gave him slack for being so young. Demoting him would have made sense but just kicking him to the curb is BS!

So he has a bad game and gets cut while mega-money raider trash Woodson aint exactly lighting it up and Harris is racking up penalties like Predator collects skulls????

How is it that Bates had him looking good last season but now that the same coach from 2004 (remember them getting smoked for long PASS PLAYS) is back, Carroll and the whole secondary look like crap!!!!!!

Bad move, TT better find a way to clean this up soon or the Rams will be dropping again 30+ next week.

[woodbuck27]

Well it's fully sunk in and all I can say is what a classless move by Ted Thompson. Carroll played hard and always showed pride in being a Packer. People hated his boasting and bragging and never gave him slack for being so young. Demoting him would have made sense but just kicking him to the curb is BS!

So he has a bad game and gets cut while mega-money raider trash Woodson aint exactly lighting it up and Harris is racking up penalties like Predator collects skulls????

How is it that Bates had him looking good last season but now that the same coach from 2004 (remember them getting smoked for long PASS PLAYS) is back, Carroll and the whole secondary look like crap!!!!!!

Bad move, TT better find a way to clean this up soon or the Rams will be dropping again 30+ next week.

I have full confidence in Ted Thompson...I have full confidence in Ted Thompson... I have full con... mmmm CON !

[Rastak]

What will be funny is that Carroll will be signed by some other team, and many of that team's fans will be excited about getting a former high draft pick. A lot of us were shocked Joey Thomas got cut last year. Some of us thought he may move on and do well for another team. I think he's out of the league now.

This is a bigger shock than Thomas, and Carroll is a much better player than Thomas. But after what I've seen, it wouldn't surprise me if Carroll washed out of the league in two or so years.

[Oscar]

I feel like coach Mac has made his example by addressing what he feels is our week link in the secondary. He cut A.C.. Now, I fully expect to hear that Schottenshooter has handed in his resignation and will be steping down as our secondary coach. I can't see big Mac all out firing him (though I wouldn't mind) BUt I think he needs to set the same example and cut ties with the week link on the coaching staff..IMHO that is..

[cpk1994]

EDIT: Sorry double post.

[cpk1994]

I don't understand to things:

Number 1: Why not make him a bench or special teams player. His contact is very cheap and he's better than any 4th corner we have

Number 2: Why not trade him? even if it's for a 6th or 7th.

Overall I don't like this move.

1. As long as Carroll is occupying a roster spot, there's another player that we could have on the team that can be something other than a player that consistently gives up large chunks of yardage and a lot of points for the opposition.

2. Trading him is not worth the only kind of player that anyone would give up for him. A player that probably would also need to be cut. Cut your losses and go out and find a practice squad guy from another team that has shown the ability to guard someone without hanging on to their jersy for 30 yards.

There's another game to get ready for. Holding him on the roster even for the time it would take to find someone stupid enough to make a trade for him (which could be awhile) means that the team is that much farther behind getting ready for St. Louis.

I understand that you can't get a good player for him, but why not trade for a late pick at least?

Because after watching the Monday debacle, any GM with a brain wouldn't touch hin with a 100 foot pole. His trade value is zero.

[Bretsky]

I don't understand to things:

Number 1: Why not make him a bench or special teams player. His contact is very cheap and he's better than any 4th corner we have

Number 2: Why not trade him? even if it's for a 6th or 7th.

Overall I don't like this move.

1. As long as Carroll is occupying a roster spot, there's another player that we could have on the team that can be something other than a player that consistently gives up large chunks of yardage and a lot of points for the opposition.

2. Trading him is not worth the only kind of player that anyone would give up for him. A player that probably would also need to be cut. Cut your losses and go out and find a practice squad guy from another team that has shown the ability to guard someone without hanging on to their jersy for 30 yards.

There's another game to get ready for. Holding him on the roster even for the time it would take to find someone stupid enough to make a trade for him (which could be awhile) means that the team is that much farther behind getting ready for St. Louis.

I understand that you can't get a good player for him, but why not trade for a late pick at least?

Because after watching the Monday debacle, any GM with a brain wouldn't touch hin with a 100 foot pole. His trade value is zero.

I think after Monday his trade value was nothing as well.