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    Coaching Staff & GM

    When does the coaching staff and GM become accountable? Carroll gets cut yet Sanders and that idiot DB coach stay. I sure did'nt see Payton and the Saints have 10 men on the field. I don't see their D letting players go uncovered in the secondary. Why is it only happening to us?

    Well may-be by the end of the season, many of you TT supporters will open your eyes and see that this guy has DESTROYED this franchise. He makes Dan Devine look smart. Let's see now, how many mistakes has he made with player moves?

    Every week it's the same line from MM- "we gotts get it fixed". He does'nt have a clue. Sherman was a much better coach than this clown will ever be and I never thought I'd say that.

    TT states he hired MM because of the man and not the x's and o's. Gee, does'nt that tell you something about him? Well at least he's honest cause MM does'nt know shit about x's and o's on either side of the ball. I sure hope someone informs him that it's ok to play with 11 men on D.......
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    If the team doesn't show more towards the end of this year and into next year, I will call for TT's head. Until then, we are rebuilding. Every team goes through it.

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    • #3
      Tell us how you really feel man.

      I mean - don't hold back.

      I detect a hint of angst in your post - no?

      "Everyone's born anarchist and atheist until people start lying to them" ~ wise philosopher

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      • #4
        Behind the Doors MM should and may be laying it to Sanders and the Secondary Fraud Schottenheimer. We don't know that.

        We can complain all we want, but the bottom line is there is no way an assistant coach gets let go before the end of the season.

        Sends just too bad of a message to future prospective coaches IMO
        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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        • #5
          Re: Coaching Staff & GM

          "....Well may-be by the end of the season, many of you TT supporters will open your eyes and see that this guy has DESTROYED this franchise."


          The franchise was in steep decline when Thompson took over.
          He is rebuilding.
          It will take time.
          Ranting, raving, and holding your breath till you turn blue to show the Packers (and us) how angry & frustrated you are is awfully silly, and will not alter well-reasoned opinions of knowledgeable fans.
          My eyes are wide open; I think Thompson is going about building a contender the right way, and he has my support. If the team does not show progress over a reasonable amount of time, that's another story.
          But for now, deal with it.
          Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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          • #6
            I hope there's something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about, otherwise this coaching staff and GM look like a bunch of fools. Cutting Carroll without looking at film, saying Collins might have failed to provide proper help over the top on the 43 yard TD, having Woodson blow the man coverage leading to the other Lewis TD, and having Collins be directly responsible for about 21 points against N.O. AND NOT GET CUT tells you that the GM and coach are using questionable and inconsistent criteria to make huge decisions.
            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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            • #7
              I have to agree with Packnut. I don't blame MM, simply because this is his first time as head coach. TT is the one who hired the coaching staff. I really believe TT is a cancer in the organization. He's slowly destroying it from the inside out. I believe all TT lives for is hearing his name mentioned on draft day for having the most players taken. By the way, is he gay (Serious question)?

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              • #8
                The hiring of Schottenheimer was probably a mistake and one that will probably be corrected in the off-season, unless Schottenheimer can turn things around. The release of Carroll is, in part, meant to send a message to everyone involved with the secondary that the current situation will not be tolerated. People can rant and vent all they want, but there usually are growing pains with a new coach. What Payton is doing in New Orleans so far is the exception, not the rule.

                Try to keep things in prespective. Holmgren and Sherman both got off to poor starts before rallying in December. The same could very well happen here. Also, keep in mind that the 3 teams the Packers have lost to are a combined 11-1. It's not like they're losing games to Houston and San Francisco.

                To Brando: You and Tank are the only 2 people who care whether TT is gay. Tank's not here any more so I don't know who's going to answer your "serious question". I won't venture a guess as to why you want to know in the first place.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Joemailman
                  The hiring of Schottenheimer was probably a mistake and one that will probably be corrected in the off-season, unless Schottenheimer can turn things around. The release of Carroll is, in part, meant to send a message to everyone involved with the secondary that the current situation will not be tolerated. People can rant and vent all they want, but there usually are growing pains with a new coach. What Payton is doing in New Orleans so far is the exception, not the rule.

                  Try to keep things in prespective. Holmgren and Sherman both got off to poor starts before rallying in December. The same could very well happen here. Also, keep in mind that the 3 teams the Packers have lost to are a combined 11-1. It's not like they're losing games to Houston and San Francisco.

                  To Brando: You and Tank are the only 2 people who care whether TT is gay. Tank's not here any more so I don't know who's going to answer your "serious question". I won't venture a guess as to why you want to know in the first place.
                  Joemailman,
                  Maybe that's a dumb, irrelevant question. You telling me you've never had a dumb question before? HA. ANNYWAY...He's never been married so I was just wondering. Every NFL players life is in the spotlight...what's wrong with his?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Coaching Staff & GM

                    Originally posted by Packnut
                    When does the coaching staff and GM become accountable? Carroll gets cut yet Sanders and that idiot DB coach stay.
                    Agree - yet just like any other industry, management is going to blame underlings for shortcomings. Thus, Sanders and Schotty are safe for at least three more months. It's the corporate way.

                    Not to defend Carroll, but this just reeks of scapegoating. Sorry, but when reasonably intelligent man can't grasp the scheme after an entire preseason AND four regular season games - necessitating cheat sheets - something is wrong with the coaching. TT and his coaching staff all seem way too determined to impress the world with their "genius" - what a bunch of egocentric, ineffective CRAP.

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by FavreChild
                      Not to defend Carroll, but this just reeks of scapegoating. Sorry, but when reasonably intelligent man can't grasp the scheme after an entire preseason AND four regular season games - necessitating cheat sheets - something is wrong with the coaching. TT and his coaching staff all seem way too determined to impress the world with their "genius" - what a bunch of egocentric, ineffective CRAP.
                      There's no benefit for them to have a scapegoat in this situation. It's way too early in the season. If it was game fourteen or fifteen this idea might have some merit, because the D-coaches could hope for a semi-decent performance in the last game or two. Then they could use Carroll as a "scapegoat" and say he had been the problem. They could then hope that the top brass buys that, and they get to keep their jobs for one more year.
                      This decision to drop Carroll is all about him being a bad player, probably with a bad attitude.

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                      • #12
                        The release of Carroll is, in part, meant to send a message to everyone involved with the secondary that the current situation will not be tolerated.
                        See, I've read this a lot, but wouldn't a less-than-interested loner like Charles Woodson say, "Shit, man, one less person to push against in practice. This team really NEEDS me now."

                        I think cutting Carrol has an effect on younger players, both as warning and perceived opportunity, but I don't know if it's striking fear in our established guys.
                        I believe in God, family, Baylor University, and the Green Bay Packers.

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                        • #13
                          Who knows? The Shadow knows!

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                          • #14
                            Re: Coaching Staff & GM

                            Originally posted by Packnut
                            Every week it's the same line from MM- "we gotts get it fixed". He does'nt have a clue. Sherman was a much better coach than this clown will ever be and I never thought I'd say that.
                            MM is a clown? So, by your logic, what would that make Jimmy Johnson after he went 1-15 in his first year as HC?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by gbpackfan
                              If the team doesn't show more towards the end of this year and into next year, I will call for TT's head. Until then, we are rebuilding. Every team goes through it.

                              Like I said, The Saints are not having the same problems. Their D is'nt anymore talented than ours. The difference is THEY have the right HC and HE picked the right coaches.

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