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  • #16
    I don't know that this is scapegoating. Though it may be the case. I think that TT was seriously considering cutting Carroll in camp. Due to the paucity of talent in the backfield he didn't. He realized that he had made a mistake and corrected it now instead of at the end of the season.
    But, why not just demote him? He has been excelling as a gunner and he has at least been playing physically. We have cap space so overpaying a bckup is not an issue. If the young guys show something against the Rams then cut him.

    The only thing that makes sense to me is that TT decided that Carroll just kept making the same mistakes again and again. After a point you go with someone else. If they are young and make mistakes that they LEARN from then your future backfield will be better. I think this move shows pretty clearly that Thompson doesn't care about winning next week he cares about winning two years from now, This is all just one big scout camp.

    I also wanted to address why the rest of the secondary hasn't been cut. Collins has made some mistakes, but he is still young. If he is still making these mistakes or worse over the next two years (a la Carroll) then he has to go. He may still play through this and turn into a player. Woodson doesn't like to tackle or play football all that much. He is not earning a 10 million dollar bonus. But, he's still one of two guys that can actually cover somebody. He can not be cut this year and he will far out play Carroll during his short time here. Manual has no business on the field, but Underwood is hurt and a rookie won't unseat him. He and Barnett were responsible for allowing that draw that McNabb scored on.

    Actually if you cut Ahman you've got to cut Manual as well he's horrible and at least you give someone a shot to play. At least we will find out quickly how the rookies play the long pass. Pray for bad weather throughout the season maybe that will stop the deep ball.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by FavreChild
      Why wasn't Carroll cut during TC or the preseason? I doubt there would have been many objectors...
      That's what I was wondering, if he was that close to being cut or on that much of thin ice why not just cut him in camp with the last cutdowns?


      Maybe they just wanted to give Bush 4 weeks to learn the system, then cut Carroll if he was not excelling.....

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Rastak
        Originally posted by FavreChild
        Why wasn't Carroll cut during TC or the preseason? I doubt there would have been many objectors...
        That's what I was wondering, if he was that close to being cut or on that much of thin ice why not just cut him in camp with the last cutdowns?


        Maybe they just wanted to give Bush 4 weeks to learn the system, then cut Carroll if he was not excelling.....
        They had no one else. Blackmon and Dendy were both injured. Hawkins bombed out. Horton had had his chances, but injuries and illness ruined it for him. When Horton and Hawkins were let go they had to pick up Bush, who clearly couldn't be expected to play the first week.

        Until Bush was ready to play, and Dendy and Blackmon recovered and ready, Carroll was their best (and only) option. Now, with injuries at RB, WR and LB they don't really have a roster spot to tie up with Carroll while activating Dendy.

        BTW, the paper is reporting that Carroll has cleared waivers, so no one wanted him enough to put in a waiver claim. Even Joey Thomas was claimed on waivers last year. I'm sure Carroll will get another chance somewhere, but other teams are willing to take their chance in a free agent "competition" for him.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Patler
          Originally posted by Rastak
          Originally posted by FavreChild
          Why wasn't Carroll cut during TC or the preseason? I doubt there would have been many objectors...
          That's what I was wondering, if he was that close to being cut or on that much of thin ice why not just cut him in camp with the last cutdowns?


          Maybe they just wanted to give Bush 4 weeks to learn the system, then cut Carroll if he was not excelling.....
          They had no one else. Blackmon and Dendy were both injured. Hawkins bombed out. Horton had had his chances, but injuries and illness ruined it for him. When Horton and Hawkins were let go they had to pick up Bush, who clearly couldn't be expected to play the first week.

          Until Bush was ready to play, and Dendy and Blackmon recovered and ready, Carroll was their best (and only) option. Now, with injuries at RB, WR and LB they don't really have a roster spot to tie up with Carroll while activating Dendy.

          BTW, the paper is reporting that Carroll has cleared waivers, so no one wanted him enough to put in a waiver claim. Even Joey Thomas was claimed on waivers last year. I'm sure Carroll will get another chance somewhere, but other teams are willing to take their chance in a free agent "competition" for him.
          Good point on the Blackmon injury, that and letting Bush learn the system may very well be the reason they waited, and if they made up their mind a while back they most likely didn't need to see the game film to decide.

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