"Official 2007 NFL Draft Thread"

[justanotherpackfan]

Re: draft

I think the first 2 are a mute point. TT cast the die with Rogers and you can't waste another pick at QB. Drafting WR's this high has'nt been a wise thing to do either. We have to go RB no matter what and I think there will be some real good ones available.

How? Larry Fitzgerald?

B. Edwards on Cleveland has also been coming around.

You could make the case either way.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Personally, I want Joe Thomas. A LT that will protect Rodgers for 10 years is a good thing!

Thomas hasn't looked that good this year. Plus, if the packers get a top ten pick, how unexciting is it to draft an O-lineman? Blah! We need difference makers in the skill positions, WR, RB, DE, DT, or CB. With our running scheme we can get the smaller agile O-lineman later in the draft.

I agree with your assessment of Joe Thomas. I'll let you guys know how he looks tomorrow.

I'd be alright wtih an OL in the top 10 if he was gonna be dominant and reshape the offense.

Yes we do need to start thinking about replacing one of are tackles soon, but I would rather take someone in the 2nd and let him develop behind cilffton for a year. In the 1st round I want to see a DE or a WR.

Why do you want a receiver in the first that develops for a year behind Driver and Jennings instead of a tackle developing behind Clifton?

Actually I said do want to develop a tackle, but just not with a first round pick. And I would either want a big deep target at WR with Calvin Johnson or I want a big fast DE who can rush the passer.

[BallHawk]

Calvin Johnson is a great college WR. How he will translate to the pros I'm not sure. He could be great, he could be average.

Adrian Peterson will not be a succesful NFL RB. He's called All-Day, but that's college. NFL defenses are going to be conditioned better, and some get better as the game goes on, not worse.

Ted Ginn is exciting to watch, but he is a burner.

Joe Thomas I wouldn't go with for the fact he was injured and he isn't playing to well at this time. I feel really bad that he was injured in the Auburn game playing defense, trying to help the team. I also agree drafting an O-lineman doesn't fill the fans with excitement.

[xxmattsharpxx]

The RB's have potetnial, but GB shouldn't use their first pick on one...

I love to watch Adrain Peterson play in college, but I just am not sure about him in the pros. The main reason is not that defenses don't wear down in the NFL like in college. The main reason is if you watch an Oklahoma game watch how he lines up in the backfield. He isn't 2 yards back from the QB like a normal I formation, he lines up 4-5 yards back. Oklahoma had tried him in the normal I formation but without his momentum and power he got bottled up too much. Great college RB but I think he will probably be a bust in the NFL.

I also don't see the excitement behind Kenny Irons, I haven't seen as much on this guy just a smattering in the Auburn/LSU and all of the Auburn/South Carolina game. Granted LSU has a good defense but he showed me nothing against SC. He had some good numbers in the SC game that is a given, but who hasn't had good numbers rushing against Spurrier's boys?

Michael Bush could be nice, but with that injury I wouldn't risk it. Then again I don't get paid to make those decisions.

[justanotherpackfan]

We don't need a running back seeing as how Morency is our back of the future. I'm against taking Johnson too because we already have a pretty good receiving core. I wouldn't be mad if we took him but we need much more help else where especially on defense.

[Guiness]

I don't know about AP either. He seems to run very upright.

I know he's a great college back. I just don't know how it'll translate to the NFL.

[b bulldog]

C Johnson has more than been a stud at the college level and should do the same at the next level. He is a good kid, dedicated football player and his measureables are out of this world.

[red]

Bulldog, where'd you see the 4.3 40 for CJ? I thought he was a 4.4 to 4.5 guy. And of course, all these times are crap until the combine, where the clock of truth does not lie, or have a quick thumb on the stop watch.

But I'll agree with you on the big point -- CJ looks very, very special every time I see him play.

espn, must have said it at least 87 times in the game he played on there a couple weeks ago

[red]

Garrett Wolfe is 5'7" and 175 lbs. That's why he won't get drafted until the 3rd round, if not later.

right on

jerome harrison by far led the nation in rushing last year against the same pac-10 the bush ran against, unreal talent, but the knock on him was that he was too small (5'9, 199). he didn't get drafted until the middle of the 5th

[J-Rok]

Yeah, but did he get 2800 rushing yards, which Wolfe is threatening to do.

I think Wolfe'll be a lower 2 or high 3, but it's just crazy to think someone with those numbers won't be a first rounder. Really too bad the guy's so small.

[red]

Yeah, but did he get 2800 rushing yards, which Wolfe is threatening to do.

I think Wolfe'll be a lower 2 or high 3, but it's just crazy to think someone with those numbers won't be a first rounder. Really too bad the guy's so small.

he's not going to flirt with 3,000 yards, i doubt he'll have too many more 350 yard games like his last one

harrison ran for 1900 last year, very few college runners have gotten there, and he still didn't go until the middle of the 5th

wolfe might go over 2000, but if harrison almost did it, while being 25 pounds heavier and 2 inches taller, and still slipped to the 5th, then i don't see wolfe going very high, no matter what kind of numbers he puts up

small players get no respect, and small players from non major schools get even less

[BF4MVP]

Calvin had 10 catches 133 yards and a touchdown today..

35 catches 559 yards and 8 TD ( ) for the season...And that's with a terrible QB (no offense Reggie Ball)

I don't think there's any question that Calvin is the best player in college football...

[Tarlam!]

I think if we pick top 5 again, TT will trade out unless there is a monster to be had that is not a QB. I simply cannot see TT picking another QB.

Are there any like Mario Williams in the coming class?

[BallHawk]

Are there any like Mario Williams in the coming class?

There is a very talanted and speedy DE coming out of Georgia, Quentin Moses. 6'5, 257, 4.70

[Tarlam!]

[quote="BallHawkThere is a very talanted and speedy DE coming out of Georgia, Quentin Moses. 6'5, 257, 4.70[/quote]

Thanks BallHawk. Why is my alter ego so pissed at you on the dragons thread?

BTW, I looked up the guy:

Quentin Moses DE 6'5 257 Georgia
By: Robert Davis
Quentin Moses toyed with the idea of being a two sport athlete originally. After spending time with the basketball team as a freshman, he realized his future was on the gridiron. As a redshirt freshman in 2003, Moses racked up 37 tackles, 4.5 for loss, and 2.5 sacks, earning All SEC Freshman honors. He became more of a playmaker as a sophomore, going for 7.5 tackles for loss, and 6.5 sacks, to go along with 23 tackles. As many players do, Moses broke out as a junior. He posted career highs with 44 tackles, 20.5 for loss, and 11.5 sacks.

Pound for pound, Moses is one of the elite athletes in the draft. He has fantastic agility, quickness, and speed on the football field. He has the athletic talent to be a true standout off the edge in the NFL. He is not just an athlete though. He has a great burst off the snap, and once he gets a step on the tackle, is in the backfield to bring down the ball carrier. Moses shows the ability to get after the passer, but has the awareness to see the run play and get to the back.

As with most ‘tweeners,’ Moses lacks the bulk to be effective in running situations. He can be driven off the ball because of his long and lanky frame. He will need to bulk up to be more of an all around threat, and to be on the field as much as possible.

Quentin Moses will go head to head with Gaines Adams all year long as the top defensive end in the draft. Both bring big play ability to the table, and it’s going to be a battle all through the season and post season workouts.



Gaines Adams DE 6'5 260 Clemson
By: Robert Davis
After a redshirt year, and a year as a reserve end, Adams began to parlay his immense talent into production. As a sophomore, he finished the year with 35 tackles, eight for loss, and five sacks. He continued to improve, and had an outstanding junior season. On the year, Adams had 56 tackles, 15 for loss, and 9.5 sacks.

Gaines Adams has big time pass rush potential. He is an excellent athlete, that has excellent speed and agility on the football field. He can explode off the snap and blow right by the tackle to get into the backfield. He does not just rush straight off the edge, he shows the agility to easily adjust his direction as he moves up the field. Adams has an excellent frame that should allow him to add weight at the next level, and not lose any of his quickness.

Adams relies too much on his natural talent. With his lack of great size right now, he can be taken out of the play in running situations. He needs to learn how to get off blocks better, and must bulk up to play on the line at the next level.

Adams enters the year as arguably the top senior defensive end in the country. He has all the talent to keep that title throughout the year and become the first end taken in the draft. For him to improve his stock and live up to his potential at the next level, he will have to refine his game and add more bulk to his frame and strength to his game.