Robinson fires shot across the bow

[mraynrand]

Re: Robinson fires shot across the bow

Rastak, I don't see how "classless" comes into play with a legal maneuver. It's just lawyer crap, trying to get more money, the American way as someone else said.

I agree. I don't think I've ever known a legal maneuver that didn't have class. just ask Johnny Cockroach and Flea Bailey. And as John Kerry said : "John Edwards is the embodiment of the American Dream," as he sued OBGYN docs for unavoidable birth defects and fought for the right of mothers to blenderize their 6 month old babies' brains.

repeat after me: all lawyers are good, all legal maneuvers are classy. Suing for money is the American Way. enjoy.

[Rastak]

Re: Robinson fires shot across the bow

Actually, one more thought before I duck out of this thread...it IS possible the Vikings were planning to try and recover the roster bonus but were waiting until his Oct 17th court date...who knows.

[Guiness]

Odd for sure. I can't see how he can hope to get anything, except that the Vikings put something about skill and performance being unsatisfactory - don't know why they'd say that about a Pro-Bowl player!

Although I'm starting to think Rastak is carrying a pretty serious chip about this guy (I don't blame him - look how we all felt about JW) I tend to agree with him that a counter suit from the Vikings is likely.

Also Rastak, you mention the Vikings lending him $1million? Were you refering to the roster bonus, or was there something else?

[Rastak]

Odd for sure. I can't see how he can hope to get anything, except that the Vikings put something about skill and performance being unsatisfactory - don't know why they'd say that about a Pro-Bowl player!

Although I'm starting to think Rastak is carrying a pretty serious chip about this guy (I don't blame him - look how we all felt about JW) I tend to agree with him that a counter suit from the Vikings is likely.

Also Rastak, you mention the Vikings lending him $1million? Were you refering to the roster bonus, or was there something else?

Roster bonus.

You guys would be all over him if he would done that to the Packers. Actually he still might, actually he most likely will based on his previous history.

[chewy-bacca]

I dont blame him for trying. I would think it werid if he didnt try to get it. If by chance the NFL sees it his way, he gets paid. if not everyone moves a long.

This has nothing to do with class.

[MJZiggy]

Did we even give him a roster bonus? I thought it was strictly pay-per-game with nothing guaranteed at all.

[Rastak]

Did we even give him a roster bonus? I thought it was strictly pay-per-game with nothing guaranteed at all.

No, the Vikings gave him a roster bonus with language in the contract protecting them against the very thing he did....the Packers didn't give him squat in garuntees....

[mngolf19]

korens lawyers probably feel it's worth the shot to recoup some cash. let a judge read his contract and make a decision. it's the american way. i won't rip robinson for this one although i don't have an agenda. the vikes still aren't over gilbert and now they just lost a #1 reciever to a division foe.boo hoo. get over it and let the man get on with his life.

WTF?

[red]

the cba (the new one) clearly says you can't cut od guy for disaplinary reasons

and if a judge finds that this is a case of that, then k-rob will get the money he should get

if the judge decidesthatkoren isn't owed a dime, then he doesn't get a dime

rules are rules, if the vikes broke the rules, then they have to pay

old contracts with the clauses pretty much mean nothing now with the new cba, or at least thats the way i understand it. and a judge will decide if it stands or not

i can't blame the guy, every single player in the nfl would do the exact same thing in that situation

[Rastak]

the cba (the new one) clearly says you can't cut od guy for disaplinary reasons

and if a judge finds that this is a case of that, then k-rob will get the money he should get

if the judge decidesthatkoren isn't owed a dime, then he doesn't get a dime

rules are rules, if the vikes broke the rules, then they have to pay

old contracts with the clauses pretty much mean nothing now with the new cba, or at least thats the way i understand it. and a judge will decide if it stands or not

i can't blame the guy, every single player in the nfl would do the exact same thing in that situation

The CBA gives a club 2 reasons....
"Performance and for "Personal conduct which, in the reasonable judgment of the club, adversely affects or reflects on the club.".

Which do you think they'll claim?

[Guiness]

lesse Rastak - maybe the guy in yur avatar should've went for the same reason???

[Rastak]

lesse Rastak - maybe the guy in yur avatar should've went for the same reason???

For being a three time loser in the drug program or for commiting a felony or for arriving at jail drunk for his jail sentance given for his umteenth DUI?



He isn't any of those, he mearly jammed an object which is designed for the purpose into the appropriate place for said object
with a member of the opposite sex being the reciever of that object. Hmm, was I nice enough in describing that!



Hey Guiness, I was all for giving the guy a second chance and I had serious doubts when camp opened, he's an ass and if I come across as a guy who thinks he's an ass I am. He could have killed people with that last stunt and when the Vikings cut him I said "good bye asshole". Now everything I read about the guy he's a very nice fellow. He also makes assholish decisions in his life OVER AND OVER. I know you think it's no big deal, probably because he now wears your teams colors...(sorry if I'm wrong and putting words in your mouth) but when he's gone, you'll think the same thing in the end I bet.

[Patler]

The players union could be the moving force behind this. The new language in the contract is significant, and was a big issue for the union. Not just players being released, but fined, suspended, etc. The Keyshawn Johnson, Ricky Williams and T.O situations. When can a team refuse to pay, or even demand money back?

This is the first situation under the new CBA language, and the union isn't about to let the team determine unilaterally what the new language means, and how it applies. The union may not think they will win, but they might be able to get an arbitrator to agree on a few issues or something.

[digitaldean]

All in all, I never was in favor of K-Rob being here. He had chance after chance and blew it.

It does not matter to me how he does this season, it sends the wrong message.

I have had friends die because of driving drunk or due to a drunk driver hitting them. I am all for him getting his life back together. But I feel it's like playing Russian roulette in signing him.

Now with this grievance, it appalls me even more. I don't know about anyone else, but in my company if I do anything that doesn't reflect well on my company, I get canned. No golden parachute, no million dollar signing bonus to fall back on.

I don't expect choirboys to wear the Green and Gold. Heck, McGee and Hornung were hell raisers, but they didn't try to outrun the cops at 110 MPH either!

This guy's actions have not (luckily) cost anyone their life. I am pulling for him to get his life turned around and out of the bottle.

[cpk1994]

Then, by your logic, tading a first round pick for an alcoholic, hard partying QB sends the wrong message. Thats my problem with this whole thing. I don't care for K-Rob, but when people go on asking "What if he kills someone, while our future HOF QB was never held to the same standard, it reeks of hyprocrisy. Sme thing with Christl's article. It was a hypocritical piece of garbage. Now, If god forbid K-Rob kills someone(hoping with crossed fingers that he doesn't), does it really matter if he is a Packer or not? NO! No matter what he does for a living, bet it a plumber, a lawyer or a WR for the Pack, if he kills someone, he kills someone.