Robinson fires shot across the bow

[Rastak]

Then, by your logic, tading a first round pick for an alcoholic, hard partying QB sends the wrong message. Thats my problem with this whole thing. I don't care for K-Rob, but when people go on asking "What if he kills someone, while our future HOF QB was never held to the same standard, it reeks of hyprocrisy. Sme thing with Christl's article. It was a hypocritical piece of garbage. Now, If god forbid K-Rob kills someone(hoping with crossed fingers that he doesn't), does it really matter if he is a Packer or not? NO! No matter what he does for a living, bet it a plumber, a lawyer or a WR for the Pack, if he kills someone, he kills someone.

I don't think Favre pulled any of the stunts Robinson pulled so you really shouldn't compare the two. I think the Wisconsin sportswriter was just pointing out that by signing Robinson it's more likely a Wisconsin resident get's killed instead of some poor slob in his home town.

I hope this who;e thing is a completely moot point.

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favre just never got busted, the wisconsin media protected him pretty well during with bigtime drinking days

[Zool]

No matter what he does for a living, bet it a plumber, a lawyer or a WR for the Pack, if he kills someone, he kills someone.

Yup. Maybe keeping the guy gainfully employed will prevent him from doing this again. Maybe if he's cut he will go into a drinking frenzy because he's depressed. He should do some time for what he's done in his life, but keeping the guy from getting a job is ridiculous. So everyone who ever gets a DUI should get fired from their profession and never get a job again? His off the field activities should have nothing to do with his job.

These guys arent role models and any parent that lets them be role models for their children is asking for it. Parents are the role modes, atheletes are entertainment and nothing more. At least in my view.

I'm about 150% sure he's not the first pro to drive drunk multiple times. If he does his time as assigned by a judge, then let him play.

[Rastak]

No matter what he does for a living, bet it a plumber, a lawyer or a WR for the Pack, if he kills someone, he kills someone.

Yup. Maybe keeping the guy gainfully employed will prevent him from doing this again.

Yea, that's helped alot so far.

[Patler]

On fact I read this week that I like is that the Packers are providing and requiring daily counseling sessions for Robinson.

[Harlan Huckleby]

All in all, I never was in favor of K-Rob being here. He had chance after chance and blew it.

It does not matter to me how he does this season, it sends the wrong message.

What is that "wrong message"?

The only reason Robinson is in Green Bay is that he is a very good player. The team is not condoning what Robinson did. But Thompson, the Coaches and players are comfortable working with him.

I guess what you are saying is that YOU would not want to work with somebody who got drunk and went on a high speed chase. OK, that's a personal choice. I wouldn't want to work with Mossey Cade. Everybody draws the line at a different spot.

[Rastak]

All in all, I never was in favor of K-Rob being here. He had chance after chance and blew it.

It does not matter to me how he does this season, it sends the wrong message.

What is that "wrong message"?

The only reason Robinson is in Green Bay is that he is a very good player. The team is not condoning what Robinson did. But Thompson, the Coaches and players are comfortable working with him.

I guess what you are saying is that YOU would not want to work with somebody who got drunk and went on a high speed chase. OK, that's a personal choice. I wouldn't want to work with Mossey Cade. Everybody draws the line at a different spot.

Ah, HH, so you're in the Marvin Lewis camp.....

[digitaldean]

Then, by your logic, tading a first round pick for an alcoholic, hard partying QB sends the wrong message. Thats my problem with this whole thing. I don't care for K-Rob, but when people go on asking "What if he kills someone, while our future HOF QB was never held to the same standard, it reeks of hyprocrisy. Sme thing with Christl's article. It was a hypocritical piece of garbage. Now, If god forbid K-Rob kills someone(hoping with crossed fingers that he doesn't), does it really matter if he is a Packer or not? NO! No matter what he does for a living, bet it a plumber, a lawyer or a WR for the Pack, if he kills someone, he kills someone.

So Favre was on probation and STILL got busted for speeding 110 MPH in a 55?!! No.

Not close in comparisons at all. Favre was bright enough to have someone else drive. I used to bartend in Appleton through most of the 1990s and he was down there most weekends.

Did he pull some wild hair stunts, yes. Did he even get addicted to pain killers, yes.

No one knew anything about Favre when Wolf traded for him. K-Rob was a known commodity with a boatload of baggage.

The comparisons you provide aren't valid.

[FavreChild]

I'm sure most of you will not be surprised to learn that I agree with Rastak. I think some of you are a little too quick to defend the uniform. And believe me, I am not out to "get" K-Rob.

What I take issue with, however, is the defense of "the American way." As if that end absolves all wrongdoing. Granted, I am studying political economy, and that is messing with my perception of the world.

But just because capitalism is "the American way" doesn't make it right. And no matter how you slice it, Robinson is a member of the elite class - the level of society that makes all the rules. If y'all are ok with another instance of the elite class flexing its power...then I don't know what to say to that.

You say that K-Rob serves our interests because he is a good football player? Um...okay...but it is not you or me that is making money from K-Rob's on-field accomplishments.

No, I don't care that this guy is on the field, playing for us, representing our team. That's cool - I don't care about his off-field behavior. But why would I want to defend him and argue that he is entitled to *our* money?

Again, sorry for the political commentary. I don't want people to hate K-Rob at all, just to think about why the heck you're defending him or any other millionaire player for that matter...

[Patler]

I'm sure most of you will not be surprised to learn that I agree with Rastak. I think some of you are a little too quick to defend the uniform. And believe me, I am not out to "get" K-Rob.

What I take issue with, however, is the defense of "the American way." As if that end absolves all wrongdoing. Granted, I am studying political economy, and that is messing with my perception of the world.

But just because capitalism is "the American way" doesn't make it right. And no matter how you slice it, Robinson is a member of the elite class - the level of society that makes all the rules. If y'all are ok with another instance of the elite class flexing its power...then I don't know what to say to that.

You say that K-Rob serves our interests because he is a good football player? Um...okay...but it is not you or me that is making money from K-Rob's on-field accomplishments.

No, I don't care that this guy is on the field, playing for us, representing our team. That's cool - I don't care about his off-field behavior. But why would I want to defend him and argue that he is entitled to *our* money?

Again, sorry for the political commentary. I don't want people to hate K-Rob at all, just to think about why the heck you're defending him or any other millionaire player for that matter...

The battle here is not between a player and us, it is between a player and the owner, and in the NFL "society" the owners are the ones with power and control, and are the ones who make the rules for the most part. See my first post in this thread. I think this grievance could be as much about the union taking a stand and wanting to test the boundary as it is about Robinson thinking he really is entitled to more.

[FavreChild]

The battle here is not between a player and us, it is between a player and the owner, and in the NFL "society" the owners are the ones with power and control.

No offense, but that is what they *want* you to think.

When it's billionaires fighting against millionaires, well, that just distracts the rest of us from the fact that we're neither.

I warned you about my studies. But I don't want to ruin everyone's fun, either. So I'll drop it. Otherwise, I could argue this point with you ad infinitum, and I don't think anyone would appreciate that.

[Patler]

When it's billionaires fighting against millionaires, well, that just distracts the rest of us from the fact that we're neither.

This is a very simple question. Who gets the money?
Does the player get it or does the owner keep it?

They couldn't care less about us, at this point.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I want to see Robinson get his millions just to piss Rastak off.

I don't think that Robinson is a rotten guy, just a drunk who made a stupid move, but I could be wrong.

Michael Jordon was famous for driving at ridiculous speeds. Got busted for drunk driving too.

It's friggin awful behavior, has to be stopped. I don't wish people ill because of it, tho.

[MadtownPacker]

I want to see Robinson get his millions just to piss Rastak off.

This has to be the best post of the day!!

[Rastak]

I want to see Robinson get his millions just to piss Rastak off.

This has to be the best post of the day!!