Official Packers/Dolphins Game Thread

[FavreChild]

The sad thing is, someone in that division will steal a playoff spot. Talk about the worst division in football...

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The sad thing is, someone in that division will steal a playoff spot. Talk about the worst division in football...

Since Shaun Alexander is the MVP and Brett Favre is not, I reckon that the difference between Seattle with Alexander to without is greater than the difference in the Packers with or without Favre.

With Alexander AND Hasselback out, it is no wonder they aren't winning. They are a top 4 team in the league with those two in.

[FavreChild]

They are a top 4 team in the league with those two in.

Top 4 in the NFC, maybe. In the league? Not even close.

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They are a top 4 team in the league with those two in.

Top 4 in the NFC, maybe. In the league? Not even close.

Who's better? The Broncos, the Patriots, and thats it

[FavreChild]

The Bears, Vikes, Indy, Dallas, Philly, NO, Cincy, San Diego, Denver, NE. All better than Seattle.

And if you are completely dependent on one player, you are not a good TEAM.

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The Bears, Vikes, Indy, Dallas, Philly, NO, Cincy, San Diego, Denver, NE. All better than Seattle.

And if you are completely dependent on one player, you are not a good TEAM.

I disagree with the bottom portion of this. Without Favre, the Packers never would have made the playoffs in 1996 or 1997 with Jim McMahon quarterbacking.

The Bears might be better than them.
The Vikings are not better than them. They beat them minus their two best players.
The colts, possible.
Dallas hasn't blown anyone away this year.
Philly is good but they would lose to Seattle.
NO is not even close to for real yet and would get SMOKED by a full strength Seattle.
San Diego perhaps.
Denver yes
NE yes

[Fosco33]

Here's my list of teams better than SEA.

San Diego
Chicago
Dallas
Atlanta
New Orleans
Jacksonville
Baltimore
Indianapolis
Philadelphia
Minnesota
St. Louis
Pittsburgh
Denver
N.Y. Giants
Carolina
Cincinnati

[FavreChild]

I'm good with that list, Fosco.

Seattle's time is done.

Yes, one player can be key. But if you can't win without him, you are not good. If you want to talk about the SuperBowl Packers, we made it happen despite the rash of injuries at WR. Why? 'Cause we were a good TEAM.

[b bulldog]

Sorry but you would have to be a fool to think that the 96 team wouldn't have made the playoffs with McMahon QBing. They wouldn't have made the big game but they would have made the playoffs. The D was number one in points allowed!

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You guys are dreaming. You're saying the team that deserved to win the superbowl ( ref screw job ) is not that good. They lost to a full strength Bears team without the most valuable player in the league. Alexander gives them 1800 yards rushing, and 25 TDs. Without him, Morris has had 35 yards rushing a game, or 560 rushing yards in a season with 0 TDs. 1300 extra yards plus 175 additional points sure make things a lot easier, don't you think?

They lost today because two of their three best players were out. This is like saying the 1996 packers without Favre and White were only an average team. Well, no kidding, superstars win games, and when 2 of their 3 were out of the game, of course they aren't going to be a dominant team.

Seahawks are the best team in the NFC at full strength. Hands down. They have the 2nd best QB in the NFC. The best running back in the league, and the best offensive line in the league. The also have a top 5 defense when they can generate a running game and aren't on the field for 40 minutes a game.

[b bulldog]

With the loss of Hutch, they no longer have the best Oline.

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I'm good with that list, Fosco.

Seattle's time is done.

Yes, one player can be key. But if you can't win without him, you are not good. If you want to talk about the SuperBowl Packers, we made it happen despite the rash of injuries at WR. Why? 'Cause we were a good TEAM.

But they lost to "the best team in the league" when that one player was out. That is the only game they lost down one playmaker. Now that they're down two they dropped another game to a solid vikings team.

Teams win with playmakers. Seattle has 3. Two of them are out. Without being able to run the football and sustain an offense, they are no better than the Packers and their one playmaker. When they throw in two more of the best players in the league into the fray, they are a damn good team.

[esoxx]

Seahawks are the best team in the NFC at full strength. Hands down.

They were last year but not this season. Chicago has passed them by. Seattle seems to have lost their mojo this season, with or without Alexander.

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With the loss of Hutch, they no longer have the best Oline.

Right, but they have the best offensive linemen in the league in Walter Jones. 1800 yards and 25 TD versus 560 yards and 0 TD. That is the difference right there. Now with a backup QB filling in for a premier quarterback things are only going to get worse.

But just wait, they'll be the NFC superbowl representative.

[b bulldog]

They'll never win in Chicago! The NFC will go to the BEARS unless someone knocks them out of the number one seed because at home they are a dominant team. On the road, they struggle.