spot challenge in the 2nd half

[pbmax]

I just cant agree with this logic.

Or maybe they need to clear up what the challenge is for? It should be one or the other, not both. in an instance like that, you challenge the spot. the spot will dictate the down. He was right, they miss spotted the ball. He should have still had the time out.

"they gotta get thet fixed!"

How can it not be both in that instance?

He wasn't challenging possession. He was challenging a spot. And he wouldn't have challenged it if it HADN'T been for a first down.

By the split the rule logic, McCarthy would have been right on the spot challenge, not lost a TO and STILL given possession to the Rams.

Of course he was challenging both.

[Merlin]

The reason it is a two part challenge is probably something you aren't going to believe. In order to challenge the spot of the ball you must challenge the outcome of the spot. Otherwise teams would be challenging the "spot" for no other reason then push the ball further back or forward on any given play. Inside the either the 10 or the 5 yard line the spot logic is the opposite. If you challenge the spot and it does not bring it closer to the goaline then you lose the challenge. IMO, they needed to challenge the second spot because he clearly did not have control of the ball until he was 1-2 yards short of the first down.

[Patler]

I have a different but related question. Were the chains and 1st down marker moved before MM made the challenge? I could swear that the first down post was a good half-yard farther before the play was run than it was when they brought the chain in to measure after the challenge and re-spot of the ball.

[Merlin]

That I don't know. I was too po'ed at the fact they gave him 3 yards on a -1 yard catch. It's so hard to tell with the yellow line in there.

[HarveyWallbangers]

That was a terrible spot--although we got a favorable spot later in the game.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I have a different but related question. Were the chains and 1st down marker moved before MM made the challenge? I could swear that the first down post was a good half-yard farther before the play was run than it was when they brought the chain in to measure after the challenge and re-spot of the ball.

The chains were on the other side of the field, the side where the play happened was where there is just the first down marker and the guy approximates it, thus, why it seemed so far off.

[chewy-bacca]

I just cant agree with this logic.

Or maybe they need to clear up what the challenge is for? It should be one or the other, not both. in an instance like that, you challenge the spot. the spot will dictate the down. He was right, they miss spotted the ball. He should have still had the time out.

"they gotta get thet fixed!"

How can it not be both in that instance?

He wasn't challenging possession. He was challenging a spot. And he wouldn't have challenged it if it HADN'T been for a first down.

By the split the rule logic, McCarthy would have been right on the spot challenge, not lost a TO and STILL given possession to the Rams.

Of course he was challenging both.

your like 2 hours late man. it gets cleared up


and I dont think he is looking at both, just the 1st. I was thinking spot, and its just 1st down. its all good, just not explained well on TV