Broncos Trade #22 to 49ers, my draft prediction shot to hell

[Fosco33]

I posted this in another thread but thought it was relevant here...

Nutz wrote:

Lelie is all right, but he can't run a route to save his life. He can run simple post patterns and flag routes, but who can't? He is a tall target that can get down field. Just expect a lot of Cory Bradford like plays.

I would still take Lelie, and a first day pick, just to be done with Walker. Simply put it is bad for business.

It has been rumored that Lelie wants out of Denver and to compete for a #1 position somewhere. With the Walker situation and if the Pack trade for Lelie and a 1st day pick, is Lelie better than Driver?

Lelie matched Rod Smith for TDs in '04 (7) and had a better yrd/catch (20.1 vs 14.5) and gave up only 60 yrs on -15 catches! In '05, Lelie only had 1 TD (vs Smith's 6) and 42 rec for 18.3 avg (vs Smith's 85 and 13.0). He's been up with Rod Smith since '02 - if he comes to GB with Driver - who's better and why?

Lelie's stats...

Year Rec Yards Y/R TD
2002 35 525 15 2
2003 37 628 17 2
2004 54 1084 20.1 7
2005 42 770 18.3 1
TOTAL 3007 17.9

Driver's stats...
Year Rec Yards Y/R TD
1999 3 31 10.3 1
2000 21 322 15.3 1
2001 13 167 12.8 1
2002 70 1064 15.2 9
2003 52 621 11.9 2
2004 84 1208 14.4 9
2005 86 1221 14.2 5
TOTAL 4634 14.1

Driver has had better stats than Rod Smith in TDs and just slightly with Avg and Rec. I think Lelie has more upside given his faster start (vs Driver) playing with a worse QB (Favre makes his recievers better!).

[Bretsky]

I posted this in another thread but thought it was relevant here...

Nutz wrote:

Lelie is all right, but he can't run a route to save his life. He can run simple post patterns and flag routes, but who can't? He is a tall target that can get down field. Just expect a lot of Cory Bradford like plays.

I would still take Lelie, and a first day pick, just to be done with Walker. Simply put it is bad for business.

It has been rumored that Lelie wants out of Denver and to compete for a #1 position somewhere. With the Walker situation and if the Pack trade for Lelie and a 1st day pick, is Lelie better than Driver?

Lelie matched Rod Smith for TDs in '04 (7) and had a better yrd/catch (20.1 vs 14.5) and gave up only 60 yrs on -15 catches! In '05, Lelie only had 1 TD (vs Smith's 6) and 42 rec for 18.3 avg (vs Smith's 85 and 13.0). He's been up with Rod Smith since '02 - if he comes to GB with Driver - who's better and why?

Lelie's stats...

Year Rec Yards Y/R TD
2002 35 525 15 2
2003 37 628 17 2
2004 54 1084 20.1 7
2005 42 770 18.3 1
TOTAL 3007 17.9

Driver's stats...
Year Rec Yards Y/R TD
1999 3 31 10.3 1
2000 21 322 15.3 1
2001 13 167 12.8 1
2002 70 1064 15.2 9
2003 52 621 11.9 2
2004 84 1208 14.4 9
2005 86 1221 14.2 5
TOTAL 4634 14.1

Driver has had better stats than Rod Smith in TDs and just slightly with Avg and Rec. I think Lelie has more upside given his faster start (vs Driver) playing with a worse QB (Favre makes his recievers better!).

I think Driver runs much better and more disciplined routes and is a solid step up a WR. Lelie seems to run loose routes and is better with the deep ball. He's also hurt/banged up often. They wouldn't make a bad combo though. Lelie is definitely a huge upgrade from the Fraud.

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B,

the fraud is called the fraud because he has so freaking much upside and doesn't cash in on it, come on now.

I don't think Lelie is that good. Granted i've never watched him that carefully, but Denver certainly gets by with Rod Smith being solid as a rock and consistent for the millionth year in a row and pounding the ball

[Bretsky]

B,

the fraud is called the fraud because he has so freaking much upside and doesn't cash in on it, come on now.

I don't think Lelie is that good. Granted i've never watched him that carefully, but Denver certainly gets by with Rod Smith being solid as a rock and consistent for the millionth year in a row and pounding the ball

I don't think Lelie is that good either, but he's a solid step up from Robert Fraud Ferguson. If Lelie stays healthy he could be a decent WR in a three receiver rotation of Driver, Gardner, and Lelie. Heck, he's far better than anything out there in free agency. Personally I'd rather have a higher pick, and in all honestly I don't know if TT would have that much interest in Lelie, who makes a good comarison with Bradford with more talent.

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I read your post wrong B

disregard my last statement

[Bretsky]

I read your post wrong B

disregard my last statement

I figured you did so I clarified; either that or I figured you were going nutso in regard for Ferguson.... who I have a long dismay for not only because he is an underachieving puke, but because GB passed over my favorite Badger in what should have been the easiest no brainer pick Green Bay has ever made. And they blew it.