I Don't Like Cheatin', But The Bears Deserve Some Love

[FavreChild]

Sorry, B, I am already losing money in another high stakes confidence pool.



I was not addressing my remarks to you in the least, for the record. Without a doubt, we are all looking for some explanation, some reason, for the dismal performance of the team. We certainly have different opinions on the cause. But it's the turning on one another - the condeming of fellow Packer fans - that I refer to in my use of the term "witch hunt." I find that activity very unappealing.

Finding fault with a particular coach or player or strategy is one thing - that's called argument. Attacking each other on an emotional premise is another - and it's fallacious reasoning (ad hominem).

Blah, blah, blah, that was another boring lecture, I know.

Just clarifying that "calling Schott a clown" is not the problem I'm talking about.

And you are always respectful, even in disagreement, Bretsky.

[Bretsky]

Sorry, B, I am already losing money in another high stakes confidence pool.



I was not addressing my remarks to you in the least, for the record. Without a doubt, we are all looking for some explanation, some reason, for the dismal performance of the team. We certainly have different opinions on the cause. But it's the turning on one another - the condeming of fellow Packer fans - that I refer to in my use of the term "witch hunt." I find that activity very unappealing.

Finding fault with a particular coach or player or strategy is one thing - that's called argument. Attacking each other on an emotional premise is another - and it's fallacious reasoning (ad hominem).

Blah, blah, blah, that was another boring lecture, I know.

Just clarifying that "calling Schott a clown" is not the problem I'm talking about.

And you are always respectful, even in disagreement, Bretsky.

Well, it's OK if people take shots at me; it's been done is this forum and I'm sure it'll happen again. We just have to agree to disagree at times and move on and forgive and forget. The purpose of the forum is for everyone to express their opinions and feelings. The world would be boring if we all agreed with one another. There is only room for one B.

Peace to All Packer Fans.

B

[HarveyWallbangers]

So...you're a bear troll if you acknowledge that the bears are good? Sure, none of us wants this to be the case. And mock denial is totally cool - Bash away at the Bears!! It's fun, and a stress-reliever, when done in humor. That's a big part of what this site is here for.

But I am sick of this attitude that if you criticize Packers *management* (you know, the people in POWER), you are a traitor. Or if you "defend" the right of a respectful bear or viking fan to express his opinion, then you are a traitor. Only a very few posters exhibit this attitude, that *certain* viewpoints are not welcome. I'll refrain from making political analogies here, but I hope y'all can see the implication.

Are you talking to me? This is an old battle between me and Vic. I don't think he needs you sticking up for him. I couldn't care less if he praised the Bears or knocked the Packers (like normal). The tone is what gets me, so I throw it back at him. He can be a real sour old man. He hasn't even been around here--yet it's more of the same with this thread. This post could have been done diplomatically with a "Hey, the Bears are great this year". Nah, old Vic just can't do that. He's got to throw in some snide comment about the so-called Kool-Aid drinkers and the other garbage.

[Tarlam!]

Thank you, Captain Obvious!

That was hysterically funny, Harv! Do it again, BOMNF!!!

[Tarlam!]

As a BEARS fan myself, I will accept your (overdue) accolades.

Unlike Bears fans, Packer fans aren't premature - that's why your women love us so much....

[packrulz]

I've read in several publications that the Bears have the easiest schedule in the league. They beat an injury riddled Seattle team but really haven't played any tough teams yet. They do have one of the best defenses I've seen so far this year, Lovie is a good coach and Grossman is better than I thought but really hasn't been smacked around yet. They'll make the playoffs but will probably lose in the first round.

[swede]

As a BEARS fan myself, I will accept your (overdue) accolades.

Unlike Bears fans, Packer fans aren't premature - that's why your women love us so much....

Tarlam!

You wicked, wicked, cheeky little monkey!

[MadtownPacker]

SOV!!!! Where you been you SOB??

You are right, the bears are on top of the NFL so they better win the Superbowl sooner then later. I think they need to lose some games on purpose so they dont get a first round bye and have to play at home. We all know how that has turned out the last two times.

[LaFours]

See, that's what I'm talking about. You say it's "obvious" but then you soil yourself with the "easy schedule line", that is full of crap. Vikings on the road, Seattle at home, and Buffalo on the road, are 3 wins against pretty good football teams. So apparently what's seems fairly obvious, is clouded by your bias.

Buffalo is 2-3. Minnesota is a shaky 3-2. Detroit is 0-5. Green Bay is 1-4. Seattle was without Shaun Alexander. That IS a soft schedule. Geez, don't take it personal, Bear troll.

They've beaten those teams by a 31-7 average. That's damn impressive. They look like the best team in football.

This side of the rockies, yes. Denver is the best team in football imo

Devner is on this side of the Rockies. It's just right next to them.

[BEARMAN]

WoW, .. I am sorry I said "Thank You"

You can slice it, dice it, cut it anyway you want, fact is, DA BEARS have out scored their opponents 156 to 36 ! Now first off, DA BEARS do not get to pick whom they will or will not play year to year, so soft or not soft, is not up to the BEARS ! Second, Thease were all profesional football teams, playing profesional athleats, they lined up their best 22 men, we lined up our best 22 men , and it was GAME ON ! We didn't just beat thease teams, we stomped them into the dirt ! 26 to 0, 34 to 7, 37 to 6, 40 to 7, the only close one was playing in their dome, and we still beat them 19 to 16. You can say whatever you want, truth be told, I am having a blast here, most of you guys(and gals) are cool and it is fun reading your posts, sorry you are having a bad year(well not that sorry) but I am estatic that DA BEARS are doing so well !

GO BEARS !

[Rastak]

WoW, .. I am sorry I said "Thank You"

You can slice it, dice it, cut it anyway you want, fact is, DA BEARS have out scored their opponents 156 to 36 ! Now first off, DA BEARS do not get to pick whom they will or will not play year to year, so soft or not soft, is not up to the BEARS ! Second, Thease were all profesional football teams, playing profesional athleats, they lined up their best 22 men, we lined up our best 22 men , and it was GAME ON ! We didn't just beat thease teams, we stomped them into the dirt ! 26 to 0, 34 to 7, 37 to 6, 40 to 7, the only close one was playing in their dome, and we still beat them 19 to 16. You can say whatever you want, truth be told, I am having a blast here, most of you guys(and gals) are cool and it is fun reading your posts, sorry you are having a bad year(well not that sorry) but I am estatic that DA BEARS are doing so well !

GO BEARS !

Also note that the Vikings had the lead with 3 minutes left and should have beaten the mighty Bears if not for an untimely fumble,.....Harvey would call it a gift but I have to admit, a great Play by Tommie Harris and a great game by the Bears......

[son of a vic]

Humble Harv says "Are you talking to me? This is an old battle between me and Vic. I don't think he needs you sticking up for him. I couldn't care less if he praised the Bears or knocked the Packers (like normal). The tone is what gets me, so I throw it back at him. He can be a real sour old man. He hasn't even been around here--yet it's more of the same with this thread. This post could have been done diplomatically with a "Hey, the Bears are great this year". Nah, old Vic just can't do that. He's got to throw in some snide comment about the so-called Kool-Aid drinkers and the other garbage."
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We've been through this a few times, but what the hell, I'll try again. Last year I was very critical of Sherman,because I felt strongly that his time here had passed, and the team was in shambles due to his country club coaching, and his abysmal drafting.

This season I have been very patient, probably more than the bandwagon jumpers, and you put me in the "negativity" box. Show me a post where I've been crabby and negative this year. I wait in earnest to see what you find, because it ain't there, horse. And I throw in the "juice" comments, because it's f'n "obvious" if you scan this forum everyday, that some can't put down the sauce.


I'm taking a gamble that most rational people get where I'm coming from on this. So I wouldn't expect Mr. Wallbanger to understand my point.

And just maybe, it's possible that copping an attitude is the result of the baseless mush that pops up in here everyday.

[son of a vic]

"MadtownPacker"--------SOV!!!! Where you been you SOB??


Wating patiently for this team to show improvement without whining and bitching on a daily basis. That makes me a negative Bear troll I guess.

[Rastak]

Humble Harv says "Are you talking to me? This is an old battle between me and Vic. I don't think he needs you sticking up for him. I couldn't care less if he praised the Bears or knocked the Packers (like normal). The tone is what gets me, so I throw it back at him. He can be a real sour old man. He hasn't even been around here--yet it's more of the same with this thread. This post could have been done diplomatically with a "Hey, the Bears are great this year". Nah, old Vic just can't do that. He's got to throw in some snide comment about the so-called Kool-Aid drinkers and the other garbage."
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We've been through this a few times, but what the hell, I'll try again. Last year I was very critical of Sherman,because I felt strongly that his time here had passed, and the team was in shambles due to his country club coaching, and his abysmal drafting.

This season I have been very patient, probably more than the bandwagon jumpers, and you put me in the "negativity" box. Show me a post where I've been crabby and negative this year. I wait in earnest to see what you find, because it ain't there, horse. And I throw in the "juice" comments, because it's f'n "obvious" if you scan this forum everyday, that some can't put down the sauce.


I'm taking a gamble that most rational people get where I'm coming from on this. So I wouldn't expect Mr. Wallbanger to understand my point.

And just maybe, it's possible that copping an attitude is the result of the baseless mush that pops up in here everyday.

Actually Harv ain't that old and my reference is more to his endless calling a good Viking defensive play a GIFT from the opposition. He hates the Vikes with a passion and has a very hard time admitting good stuff...he does it, but grudgingly. I think he works with Viking fans that give him endless shit which causes him to lash out.....(the official diagnosis from Dr. Rastak)....no harm intended Harv!


SOV, you gotta stop by more often.....

[son of a vic]

Rastak my friend, Harv was the author of the first paragraph. I was just responding to his rant. He was calling me a crotchity old crankster, not vice versa.