I guess he's officially gone (Koren Robinson)

[KYPack]

Corey Bradford?

Bookman?

Vines?

Fine, let's pick one of 'em, sign their ass and get 'em in here!

GBM is right on, TT did this same shit last year. We had No guards, a couple wr's and Thompson added nobody. There should be one or two WR's working out right now. They should be on the roster TODAY. Make that yesterday.

Thompson must learn to manage the vet FA market or he will get the ax.

[Patler]

Re: TT

By now everyone here should see it's just another example of TT not having a plan b. Just like last season's O line fiasco or when he brought in the clowns at saftey. He NEVER has a plan b because he does'nt think that far ahead. Oh nevermind- God forbid I get negative...........

Robinson was plan B. TT started the year with Driver, Jennings, Ferguson, Martin and the 4 tight ends as plan A. He then ADDED Robinson to that after the first game. Were Ferguson not hurt, he would simply be back to plan A. Now he has to go to plan C, which probably includes one of the guys from the practice squad. I have to believe there was a reason that he has carried two WRs and a TE on the practice squad.

[HarveyWallbangers]

From Christl's Blog:

The loss of Robinson

It's hard to believe, but the Packers' decision to sign Koren Robinson looks even dumber today than it did a month ago. And, back then, it was a decision that included great risk with almost no chance for reward. In other words, it made absolutely no sense.

What did the Packers get out of Robinson? Seven catches for 89 yards, a 12.7 average, and 12 kickoff returns for a 21-yard average. And now they either have to promote someone off the taxi squad with no experience or find another receiver all over again to learn their system.

General manager Ted Thompson deserves some patience in trying to rebuild the Packers. But if his bosses are on top of the situation, they'll count this whole fiasco as one big strike against him. And if Thompson brings Robinson back next year, they should count that as strike two.

A player like Robinson will never be a pillar for a championship team. He's not worth the time or effort. And if Thompson can't figure that out, he might be in over his head.

[cpk1994]

Charles Rogers is available...

I don't really see why they're not giving him a look..He's extremely talented and could probably be had for the minimum...

Right now I don't care that he has a history of injury problems, drug problems, and being lazy. Right now, we need a third receiver in the worst way, and Rogers is the best available in my opinion.

Probably the same reason 31 other GM's won't look at him. He can't stay healthy and didn't show anything in the time he was healthy.

[Zool]

From Christl's Blog:

The loss of Robinson

It's hard to believe, but the Packers' decision to sign Koren Robinson looks even dumber today than it did a month ago. And, back then, it was a decision that included great risk with almost no chance for reward. In other words, it made absolutely no sense.

What did the Packers get out of Robinson? Seven catches for 89 yards, a 12.7 average, and 12 kickoff returns for a 21-yard average. And now they either have to promote someone off the taxi squad with no experience or find another receiver all over again to learn their system.

General manager Ted Thompson deserves some patience in trying to rebuild the Packers. But if his bosses are on top of the situation, they'll count this whole fiasco as one big strike against him. And if Thompson brings Robinson back next year, they should count that as strike two.

A player like Robinson will never be a pillar for a championship team. He's not worth the time or effort. And if Thompson can't figure that out, he might be in over his head.

This guy is an asshat. Had Thompson not signed Robinson in the first place, we would be in the exact same situation.

[HarveyWallbangers]

This guy is an asshat. Had Thompson not signed Robinson in the first place, we would be in the exact same situation.

Asshat is a great word. I also like ass clown (e.g. the secondary is full of no talent ass clowns).

[Patler]

From Christl's Blog:

The loss of Robinson

It's hard to believe, but the Packers' decision to sign Koren Robinson looks even dumber today than it did a month ago. And, back then, it was a decision that included great risk with almost no chance for reward. In other words, it made absolutely no sense.

What did the Packers get out of Robinson? Seven catches for 89 yards, a 12.7 average, and 12 kickoff returns for a 21-yard average. And now they either have to promote someone off the taxi squad with no experience or find another receiver all over again to learn their system.

General manager Ted Thompson deserves some patience in trying to rebuild the Packers. But if his bosses are on top of the situation, they'll count this whole fiasco as one big strike against him. And if Thompson brings Robinson back next year, they should count that as strike two.

A player like Robinson will never be a pillar for a championship team. He's not worth the time or effort. And if Thompson can't figure that out, he might be in over his head.

This guy is an asshat. Had Thompson not signed Robinson in the first place, we would be in the exact same situation.

I agree. To conclude now, today, that under no circumstances can Robinson be salvaged as a man or a player ("And if Thompson brings Robinson back next year, they should count that as strike two.") is just plain wrong. I personally know a man who went through alcoholism treatments numerous times before he finally licked it and has now been sober for 35 years. Fortunately neither his family nor his employer gave up on him. I'm not saying he should be welcomed back without caution, care and stringent rules. Maybe a year from now GB will decide that he is too great a risk and cut their ties. I can accept their decision in that regard. But for an outsider to make such a conclusion now is inappropriate in my opinion. That is a decision for team, for the future, not one that needs to be made today, and certainly not one that any outsider has any great insight for.

[Zool]

From Christl's Blog:

The loss of Robinson

It's hard to believe, but the Packers' decision to sign Koren Robinson looks even dumber today than it did a month ago. And, back then, it was a decision that included great risk with almost no chance for reward. In other words, it made absolutely no sense.

What did the Packers get out of Robinson? Seven catches for 89 yards, a 12.7 average, and 12 kickoff returns for a 21-yard average. And now they either have to promote someone off the taxi squad with no experience or find another receiver all over again to learn their system.

General manager Ted Thompson deserves some patience in trying to rebuild the Packers. But if his bosses are on top of the situation, they'll count this whole fiasco as one big strike against him. And if Thompson brings Robinson back next year, they should count that as strike two.

A player like Robinson will never be a pillar for a championship team. He's not worth the time or effort. And if Thompson can't figure that out, he might be in over his head.

This guy is an asshat. Had Thompson not signed Robinson in the first place, we would be in the exact same situation.

I agree. To conclude now, today, that under no circumstances can Robinson be salvaged as a man or a player ("And if Thompson brings Robinson back next year, they should count that as strike two.") is just plain wrong. I personally know a man who went through alcoholism treatments numerous times before he finally licked it and has now been sober for 35 years. Fortunately neither his family nor his employer gave up on him. I'm not saying he should be welcomed back without caution, care and stringent rules. Maybe a year from now GB will decide that he is too great a risk and cut their ties. I can accept their decision in that regard. But for an outsider to make such a conclusion now is inappropriate in my opinion. That is a decision for team, for the future, not one that needs to be made today, and certainly not one that any outsider has any great insight for.

Also a WR does not need to be a pillar of a championship team. Andre Rison was no model citizen, but the man contributed. Maybe Asshat(which is what I will refer to him from here on out) wants everyone who has ever made a mistake shunned from society as a whole. Maybe he writes up crap so that his name gets mentioned. Maybe he's just a crotchetty old man with nothing to do and a ton of free time. Either way his opinion means about as much as a dung beetles opinion.

[Rastak]

From Christl's Blog:

The loss of Robinson

It's hard to believe, but the Packers' decision to sign Koren Robinson looks even dumber today than it did a month ago. And, back then, it was a decision that included great risk with almost no chance for reward. In other words, it made absolutely no sense.

What did the Packers get out of Robinson? Seven catches for 89 yards, a 12.7 average, and 12 kickoff returns for a 21-yard average. And now they either have to promote someone off the taxi squad with no experience or find another receiver all over again to learn their system.

General manager Ted Thompson deserves some patience in trying to rebuild the Packers. But if his bosses are on top of the situation, they'll count this whole fiasco as one big strike against him. And if Thompson brings Robinson back next year, they should count that as strike two.

A player like Robinson will never be a pillar for a championship team. He's not worth the time or effort. And if Thompson can't figure that out, he might be in over his head.

This guy is an asshat. Had Thompson not signed Robinson in the first place, we would be in the exact same situation.

I agree. To conclude now, today, that under no circumstances can Robinson be salvaged as a man or a player ("And if Thompson brings Robinson back next year, they should count that as strike two.") is just plain wrong. I personally know a man who went through alcoholism treatments numerous times before he finally licked it and has now been sober for 35 years. Fortunately neither his family nor his employer gave up on him. I'm not saying he should be welcomed back without caution, care and stringent rules. Maybe a year from now GB will decide that he is too great a risk and cut their ties. I can accept their decision in that regard. But for an outsider to make such a conclusion now is inappropriate in my opinion. That is a decision for team, for the future, not one that needs to be made today, and certainly not one that any outsider has any great insight for.

Here's the problem though Patler, if you invest time on him and then are counting on him next year and he does the same thing he does every other time, you now have to train his replacement because he's gone again. Look, if they think it's not going to happen OR they think he can be Jerry Rice then I guess it's worth it, otherwise it just makes good business sense to find a long term replacement and let him become someone elses problem....that's my take.

[Patler]

Here's the problem though Patler, if you invest time on him and then are counting on him next year and he does the same thing he does every other time, you now have to train his replacement because he's gone again. Look, if they think it's not going to happen OR they think he can be Jerry Rice then I guess it's worth it, otherwise it just makes good business sense to find a long term replacement and let him become someone elses problem....that's my take.

Well, they won't be wasting any time with him before next year because they are allowed to have no contact with him.

Clearly they can't "count" on him because it will be after the start of the 2007 season at the earliest before he can return, and that isn't even certain. He can apply for reinstatement as of 9/18/2007, but it may not be granted until sometime later. The Packers certainly can't count on him.

But, if October 2007 rolls around and because of injury or whatever the Packers have a roster spot for him, if he has seemed to learn something from the suspension and hasn't relapsed in over a year, what's the harm in honoring what is left of a minimum wage contract with him? They can then decide at the end of 2007 whether to continue the relationship.

I think it is exteme arrogance for Christl to conclude now, today, that bringing Robinson back in that situation would be strike two against TT.

[MJZiggy]

This, of course, leads me to a question. If Robinson is gone for the year, and he was receiving counseling and support in GB, is he now cut off from his support system as well? So now the NFL expects him to stay clean without any of the tools he had in place to assist him in that endeavor?

[Patler]

This, of course, leads me to a question. If Robinson is gone for the year, and he was receiving counseling and support in GB, is he now cut off from his support system as well? So now the NFL expects him to stay clean without any of the tools he had in place to assist him in that endeavor?

One article said he could still attend the team sponsored counseling, but the problem I see with that is that an article a couple weeks ago said the Packers had him attending daily counseling sessions right at the stadium. Now the onus will be on him to go to it somewhere else, because he can't be at the Packer facilities. He also will be on his own to make sure he attends. But, he needs to make to commitment himself anyway, if he is to be successful.

It's not like there aren't an abundance of programs out there for those who want one. He need not be "on his own" if he doesn't want to be.

[Partial]

This guy is an asshat. Had Thompson not signed Robinson in the first place, we would be in the exact same situation.

Asshat is a great word. I also like ass clown (e.g. the secondary is full of no talent ass clowns).

These are two hilarious posts right here!

[Rastak]

This, of course, leads me to a question. If Robinson is gone for the year, and he was receiving counseling and support in GB, is he now cut off from his support system as well? So now the NFL expects him to stay clean without any of the tools he had in place to assist him in that endeavor?

With all due respect Ziggy, every single solitary issue he's had, every relapse has happened WHILE he was on an NFL roster! I have no idea what the heck people are talking about here. Maybe the NFL lifestyle IS the problem.

[BF4MVP]

This guy is an asshat. Had Thompson not signed Robinson in the first place, we would be in the exact same situation.

Asshat is a great word. I also like ass clown (e.g. the secondary is full of no talent ass clowns).

These are two hilarious posts right here!

Michael Bolton - "Well, at least your name isn't Michael Bolton."

Samir - "There's nothing wrong with that name."

Michael - "There was nothing wrong with it, until I was about 12 years old, and that no-talent ass clown became famous and started winning grammies."

One of the best movies ever