Shaun Bodiford

[Lurker64]

god damnit, why in the hell can we not bring in one of the vets that are out there instead of the nobody cast offs from other teams like the lions?

Because the Packers aren't low enough on the waiver list to sign any of the myriad hall of famers that are getting cut every week.

[Rastak]

god damnit, why in the hell can we not bring in one of the vets that are out there instead of the nobody cast offs from other teams like the lions?

everytime we lose someone, TT pulls this crap.

ANYONE that you sign at this point, even a vet, is a cast off from another team. If what has been written about Bodiford holds true, he is a decent kick returner and is decent on special teams. That is what Ferguson was to the Packers, and that is what they have to replace. His receptions will be picked up by Martin and Francies.

I do see Red's point, does every guy he signs need to be a rookie? He has tons of them already, there must be somebody out there that can join the team and at least be a #4 guy and maybe teach the younger players something.

[red]

Name one.

i can't find a stupid list

patler, any help?

there has to be some guys with some nfl experience out there. IMO, it sure seems like tt is only willing to grab those available guys that are undrafted rookies

[red]

god damnit, why in the hell can we not bring in one of the vets that are out there instead of the nobody cast offs from other teams like the lions?

everytime we lose someone, TT pulls this crap.

ANYONE that you sign at this point, even a vet, is a cast off from another team. If what has been written about Bodiford holds true, he is a decent kick returner and is decent on special teams. That is what Ferguson was to the Packers, and that is what they have to replace. His receptions will be picked up by Martin and Francies.

I do see Red's point, does every guy he signs need to be a rookie? He has tons of them already, there must be somebody out there that can join the team and at least be a #4 guy and maybe teach the younger players something.

thank you

someone sees my point

[Lurker64]

I do see Red's point, does every guy he signs need to be a rookie? He has tons of them already, there must be somebody out there that can join the team and at least be a #4 guy and maybe teach the younger players something.

I think, though, that since the Packers are (barring some weird doings in the league) more or less out of the playoff hunt, we're better off signing somebody who has upside than somebody who's washed up. The guy with upside might become a quality performer with the team in the future, or at the very least (if he has a motor) will step up competition for roster spots come next offseason forcing everybody else to be better. Better that than somebody just taking up space on a roster because they've pulled a paycheck for a while in this league.

"Experience" is as ephemeral and inconstant as "Potential." You don't sign a guy solely because they have one of the two. By everything I'm reading, Bodiford is hard working, competitive, tough, and runs a 4.5. I don't think we're really losing anything by picking up this guy. It's not like he was raised by wolves on the savannah and has never seen a football before. He was an undrafted free agent who made a roster on a team that was loaded with talent at Wide Receiver. That says a lot to me, at least.

Plus according to his bio on the Portland State webpage, one of his hobbies is "collecting hats." How can you not like a guy who collects hats?

[MJZiggy]

Bodiford is 24 years old and made the Lions roster. He was not a training camp cut. He is only on the street because of an injury. Considering what's out there, he may be the best available and that IS what you want TT to get, isn't it? I'd rather have the best available than some dude who's out of the league because he sucks but has a couple years under his belt so he must be more valuable.

[Lurker64]

Also, he knows the playbook for a Lions team we're still going to play later in the year. That has to count for something.

[vince]

god damnit, why in the hell can we not bring in one of the vets that are out there instead of the nobody cast offs from other teams like the lions?

everytime we lose someone, TT pulls this crap.

You mean like Rod Gardner or Marc Boerigter? Guys like that?

[Rastak]

god damnit, why in the hell can we not bring in one of the vets that are out there instead of the nobody cast offs from other teams like the lions?

everytime we lose someone, TT pulls this crap.

You mean like Rod Gardner or Marc Boerigter? Guys like that?

I'm not Red but yea, someone who's played in the league a bit.

[red]

god damnit, why in the hell can we not bring in one of the vets that are out there instead of the nobody cast offs from other teams like the lions?

everytime we lose someone, TT pulls this crap.

You mean like Rod Gardner or Marc Boerigter? Guys like that?

right now i wouldn't mind having those guys back

once again, just like last year, we are stuck in a desperate situation at a very important position, and like wolf said last year, this year we are fixing the problem with NFL europe talent.

the exception last year was rod gardner, and he did half way decent at what he was brought into be, a #3 wr

[Bretsky]

To try to win now

or

To try find talent that might further develop later

that is the question.

[MJZiggy]

I'll take both, please.

[vince]

god damnit, why in the hell can we not bring in one of the vets that are out there instead of the nobody cast offs from other teams like the lions?

everytime we lose someone, TT pulls this crap.

You mean like Rod Gardner or Marc Boerigter? Guys like that?

I'm not Red but yea, someone who's played in the league a bit.

It's amazing to me that people think it's so OBVIOUS that there are servicable players out there. Do you guys think that Pro Personnel Director Reggie McKenzie and the entire scouting department doesn't know who's available and what their options are? David Boston's been OUT OF FOOTBALL for 3 years now. Tyrone Calico is worse than Boerigter and can't get open. What talents do ANY of these guys show you indicates that they're better than Francies, Martin or this new guy?

[vince]

god damnit, why in the hell can we not bring in one of the vets that are out there instead of the nobody cast offs from other teams like the lions?

everytime we lose someone, TT pulls this crap.

You mean like Rod Gardner or Marc Boerigter? Guys like that?

right now i wouldn't mind having those guys back

once again, just like last year, we are stuck in a desperate situation at a very important position, and like wolf said last year, this year we are fixing the problem with NFL europe talent.

the exception last year was rod gardner, and he did half way decent at what he was brought into be, a #3 wr

After seeing their limited action just last week, I'll take Martin and Francies.

Why do you assume that, after working with these guys for months in the offseason, the coaches and scouts can't see that they aren't better than Gardner? Boerigter was CLEARLY worse. I could have seen that.

[Rastak]

god damnit, why in the hell can we not bring in one of the vets that are out there instead of the nobody cast offs from other teams like the lions?

everytime we lose someone, TT pulls this crap.

You mean like Rod Gardner or Marc Boerigter? Guys like that?

I'm not Red but yea, someone who's played in the league a bit.

It's amazing to me that people think it's so OBVIOUS that there are servicable players out there. Do you guys think that Pro Personnel Director Reggie McKenzie and the entire scouting department doesn't know who's available and what their options are? David Boston's been OUT OF FOOTBALL for 3 years now. Tyrone Calico is worse than Boerigter and can't get open. What talents do ANY of these guys show you indicates that they're better than Francies, Martin or this new guy?

Well, I'm 100% sure I won't convince you of my position. I don't think it's a bad thing to get guys you think have potential and are young...but not 100% of the time...mix in a vet once in a while....maybe Ted is a genius and these guys will really produce....