Cliff Christl, thoughts on the game

[Bretsky]

If I did I'd already have called wondering why he hibernated through much of free agency

[MJZiggy]

Rogers is still out there; apparent questions about his character though. But it doesn't hurt to bring him in and we did sign KRBO (who I like) with character issues.

B

And TT took a whole lotta heat for signing him...a lot of steam was raised right here on this board. Imagine Cliffy's reaction to that one!

[red]

what about cory bradford?

we're looking for a #3, 4 or #5

and he has proven to be in that area over his career

his name stuck out because i knew who he was. but you would have to think theres quite a few guys out there like him, that have played in the league for years and have put up so-so numbers

i'm not looking for steve smith or randy moss here, just a decent #3 or 4 thats knows what they're doing

heres a list, maybe someone will jump out at someone else

http://www.kffl.com/players.php/NFL/?position=4

freddie mitchell. again i'm not looking for a world beater, just someone thats been there and done that before

jerome pathon

[Patler]

is charles rodgers still out there? you can't tell me he wouldn't be a decent #3 or #4

Sure I can. Charles Rodgers wouldn't be a decent #3 or #4!

[Patler]

Why are so many of you so hung up on whether you recognize a player's name? As Gardner, Boerigter and others proved, that does not make them a decent player.

[red]

is charles rodgers still out there? you can't tell me he wouldn't be a decent #3 or #4

Sure I can. Charles Rodgers wouldn't be a decent #3 or #4!

smart ass

todd pinkston

[Rastak]

is charles rodgers still out there? you can't tell me he wouldn't be a decent #3 or #4

Sure I can. Charles Rodgers wouldn't be a decent #3 or #4!

smart ass

todd pinkston

Yea but how many guys do you want that are sitting on a years suspension, I guess Robinson and Rogers could rotate each year who is suspened....

[vince]

So, we pick up the guy who BEAT OUT Charles Rogers, and you are pissed off because you've heard of Charles Rogers, but not the guy that's better than him?

[MJZiggy]

You mean THIS Pinkston?

During the 2006 pre-season, he was still hobbled from his Achilles injury, only catching one pass for four yards. When he was cut from the Eagles, a Philadelphia football writer offered this explanation: "Toughness has never been Pinky's forte. Two years ago, he sat out the second half of a Super Bowl that was played in 60-degree Jacksonville temps with cramps. That same season he was involved in three memorable plays in which he basically backed off passes from Donovan McNabb because he was afraid of a pending hit from the safety."[3]

[Patler]

So, we pick up the guy who BEAT OUT Charles Rogers, and you are pissed off because you've heard of Charles Rogers, but not the guy that's better than him?

Good point!

[red]

You mean THIS Pinkston?

During the 2006 pre-season, he was still hobbled from his Achilles injury, only catching one pass for four yards. When he was cut from the Eagles, a Philadelphia football writer offered this explanation: "Toughness has never been Pinky's forte. Two years ago, he sat out the second half of a Super Bowl that was played in 60-degree Jacksonville temps with cramps. That same season he was involved in three memorable plays in which he basically backed off passes from Donovan McNabb because he was afraid of a pending hit from the safety."[3]

it doesn't have to be pinkston, someone like that, someone hows been in the league 5 or 6 years and has put up decent numbers in that time

once agin, for the billionth time, i'm not f'cking looking for for a pro bowler

cory bradford, charles rodgers, david boston, todd pinkston, david terrell, peter warrick, rod gardner

all guys that have been in the nfl for more then 2 months. all have caught td passes and have gotten around 500 yards or more in a few season, all have already adjusted to nfl speed, all understand an nfl playbook better the a street free agent rookie

there has to be someone out there a long those lines, that can be brought in at this point and do more then a guy that was barely on the lions roster before being cut

[red]

So, we pick up the guy who BEAT OUT Charles Rogers, and you are pissed off because you've heard of Charles Rogers, but not the guy that's better than him?

yeah, he really beat him out good

how many more days did he last?

and i'm pissed because we are willing to bring in this guy, but completely unwilling to even think about bringing in the other guy

[HarveyWallbangers]

Pinkston is a stiff. Apparently, Charles Rogers has lost lots of speed the last couple of years--probably due to all of his injuries. It happens. Sure, I'd like a vet like Calico because I've heard of him, but I can neither praise or rip the moves made at this point. Not until I see them play. Francies stepped up when he had to last week. Hopefully, when they sign these young guys they turn out to be Samkon Gado and not Taco Wallace. It's a crapshoot.

[MJZiggy]

[quote="red"]

it doesn't have to be pinkston, someone like that, someone hows been in the league 5 or 6 years and has put up decent numbers in that time

there has to be someone out there a long those lines, that can be brought in at this point and do more then a guy that was barely on the lions roster before being cut

Why? The only reason he was cut was the injury. None of the guys you listed have torn up the NFL with their wonderful production and this kid reputedly tore up the training camp. And as for Francies, he is a member of the Packers organization and as such knows the playbook and has gone through training camp on THIS team which makes him miles ahead of some old worn out vet that would have to learn the whole playbook before he can contribute. We don't have that kind of time. All we did was bring in some insurance and a KR/PR. I just don't get why you think they have to have 5 years in the NFL to sit on the bench and get clobbered on kick returns. Why?

[vince]

Red and Ras,

I know I sometimes come on a little strong, but I don't mean any offense to you guys. I respect your knowledge and perspectives here.

And no, "TT" hasn't been 100% correct. My point is that I'm inclined to trust the judgement of those guys like Ted Thompson, Reggie McKenzie, John Dorsey and the entire scounting and personnel staff before a couple fans, regardless of how knowledgeable I know you are. These guys know what they're doing. I'm going to let them do their job and see the guy on the field before I attack their decision.