Ponder this!

[mmmdk]

Seahawks released KR Willie Ponder and signed QB Gibram Hamdan.

Hamdan's their third quarterback now while Matt Hasselbeck is hurt, behind Seneca Wallace and David Greene.

Stats for Kickoff Returns 2006

Willie Ponder No. 25, 587 yards, 23.5 avg., long 41, TD 0

Ponder took all Kickoff Returns for Seattle untill his release, a release promted by injury to Hasselbeck.

[hurleyfan]

I was hoping TT would grab Ponder at the start of the season.. Now that he's available again, I say if they can slot him, it would be a good thing. Get Woodson out of returning punts also...

[MJZiggy]

but then you're back to the same old question: who do you cut to get him?

[hurleyfan]

but then you're back to the same old question: who do you cut to get him?

That is a very good question!

Maybe the receiver they just brought up from the practice squad??

[MJZiggy]

At this point, though, can you cut a receiver to sign a KR? We're not really deep at WR. Unless Ponder can play WR too?

[Patler]

He doesn't fit well with the Packers injury situation right now. He seems to be exclusively a kickoff returner. While he is listed as a receiver, he had 7 receptions with NY in 2003, 1 in 2004, none in 2005. In six games with Seattle he had no receptions. He does not return punts.

He's a luxury that a top team can use, as long as they are healthy.

[hurleyfan]

True Patler...

It if TT could've grabbed him before the season started when they were searching for a returner, a known "NEED" then, he could've gotten some reps as a WR.

[red]

didn't we just have this discusion in another thread about the new guy

that #4 and #5 wr and all the guys low on the depth chart are just threre for special teams more then anything



if this guy is the real deal, then we should sign him and drop one of the other guys, that are just there for the PS anyways

[Patler]

didn't we just have this discusion in another thread about the new guy

that #4 and #5 wr and all the guys low on the depth chart are just threre for special teams more then anything

if this guy is the real deal, then we should sign him and drop one of the other guys, that are just there for the PS anyways

The problem is that ALL he does is return kickoffs. He doesn't return punts and more importantly doesn't play on coverage teams. That's the ST aspect of Ferguson that's still missing with Ponder. He's pretty limited.

[red]

you pretty much come back to the allen rossem question then

is a KR who can get you 10 extra yards per kick return over the other guy, and maybe break one and put you in great field position, as valuable as a #5 WR that might catch 10 passes in a season?

[MJZiggy]

Can Ponder definitely do that over Bodiford? Or is it because you've heard of Ponder and not Bodiford? I haven't seen either of them play, so I don't know the answer.

[red]

Can Ponder definitely do that over Bodiford? Or is it because you've heard of Ponder and not Bodiford? I haven't seen either of them play, so I don't know the answer.

i have no idea either

i'm just asking the question

if a guy that can only return kicks, but do it very well, more valuable then a guy thats an average kick returner, but also the #5 wr. knowing that the #5 WR won't contribute much to the passing game

i will say ponder has more to go off of then the new guy. ponder has played in real nfl games. not just lions pre-season.

i'm sure the brain trust at 1265 would have a much better idea of what ponder can do

[Patler]

Can Ponder definitely do that over Bodiford? Or is it because you've heard of Ponder and not Bodiford? I haven't seen either of them play, so I don't know the answer.

i have no idea either

i'm just asking the question

if a guy that can only return kicks, but do it very well, more valuable then a guy thats an average kick returner, but also the #5 wr. knowing that the #5 WR won't contribute much to the passing game

i will say ponder has more to go off of then the new guy. ponder has played in real nfl games. not just lions pre-season.

i'm sure the brain trust at 1265 would have a much better idea of what ponder can do

When your #2 receiver might be out, you can't afford to pickup Ponder in place of a guy that can at least play at WR. The other problem is that the Packers don't really have a "throw away" roster spot right now, with the injuries to Taylor & Hodge they have to keep White. With Jenkins hobbling, they now no longer have a surplus at DL.

The "expendable" guy, at least the way they are usig them right now, is Henderson. Henderson isn't figuring into their gameplan any more, and they backup Miree with TEs.

[MJZiggy]

TT would be crucified for dumping Hendo in favor of a KR only that very few have heard of.

[Patler]

TT would be crucified for dumping Hendo in favor of a KR only that very few have heard of.

I agree. I hope they have enough sense to have him active for the last home game at least, and let him play a series toward the end of the game. He deserves a "send off" from the Green Bay fans.