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Originally posted by MerlinWizard222
As one example: Jerry Jones was 8-24 his first 2 years (89-90). They went on to win a couple of superbowls. They built primarily through the draft.
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So let me get this straight. Getting very promising rookies is a bad thing because they will cost a lot when their rookie contracts are up. But the future is now. So should he spend big money on FA now - because they will be worth less when their contracts are up? This is a very confusing post.
As one example: Jerry Jones was 8-24 his first 2 years (89-90). They went on to win a couple of superbowls. They built primarily through the draft. -
".....Unfortunately TT doesn't agree and is spending all his time making "his" team. This is OUR team."
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Personally, I want a team that's a championship contender over a long period.
I want 'My' team to be built correctly, from the ground up.
I think Thompson is doing it the right way, and have absolutely no problem with him taking his sweet time to get the job done correctly.Who Knows? The Shadow knows!Comment
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POLL/STUNNING FANS' TRIBUTES
Do you want Brett Favre to return?
Yes. 84.74 %
No. 5.18 %
Just one more year. 10.08 % __________________________________________________ _____________________________________________
I have a lot going on in my life that i am not happy with. i suffer from severe depression and sometimes think life would be better without me. i can honestly say that the only thing that keeps me going in the winter months (where my depression is at its peak) is watching brett favre and the packers play. every sunday when i was the game, my fiance hates football, but knows everything about the Packs and Brett, she always tells me how happy i look when i see favre play, so thanks for the memories, and i have purchased DirecTV's sunday ticket twice in a row, this year and last, thinking, yet surely not hoping, it was going to be Favre's last game....so one more year brett...i know if u were to return, we'd be saying one more year again....but honestly, all i want is one more year for brett to get that superbowl ring. i know the packers can do it, they finally have some type of hunger for winning, and i truely believe that if Favre were to give it one more shot, he wouldnt be disappointed.
Brett Favre is my Hero!
Brett can stay and play until he's ready to retire! He's awesome!
You're the greatest there ever will be
DONT GO FAVRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Green Bay needs you!! And Wisconsin needs you even more.
Please don't leave yet Brett. You are still at the top of the league, and haven't lost a step. Give Wisconsin another year.
One more shot at the Super Bowl most likely awaits in 2007-08. Plus you still have knowledge to pass to Aaron; he needs time to recover from the foot injury and to take snaps with the practice squad. Sure, make it your last one but take that victory lap!
Brett cannot go yet.
I love brett favre. you will never be replicated or trumped. you're the one and only, so pleeeease stay so the distinctly unique and unequivocable experience of watching what has become a GB game can be on display for just a bit longer. No one loses. We all love the game when it's 4 under center.
Brett you can't leave! The game won't be the same without you! You've inspired me in so many ways! I think you can make it so far next year! If you do leave, you had a great ride, and I loved every minute of it. We'll miss you when you're gone. So don't go yet. You still have more in you. I know you love the game, so just do what you love! You only have so many chances in life at that!
Your my boy!!! The game of football, and the Green Bay Packers will not be the same without you! We all have hope and trust in you and know that one more year will end up being the best year!!
Please, please, please come back and give us one more oppourtunity to see you work your magic Begging in balitmore.
Brett, it's your decision. And I'll respect it either way. But I love watching you play, and I love the Packers. I think that team will be good enough to make a run next year with you at the helm, because you haven't lost it, and your supporting cast is going to be that much better.
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SUPER BOWL WEEK: SIDNEY'S/DRIVER'S/VANDERMAUSE'S VIEWS
Driver wants Favre back by Wolfley Sports Day JSOnline.com
Two years ago on media day during Super Bowl week in Jacksonville, Fla., Green Bay Packers wide receiver Donald Driver created a stir when he said during a radio interview that he thought quarterback Brett Favre would not return to play in 2005. His comments attracted national attention. In subsequent interviews, he said his prediction was only an opinion and not based on any conversation he had with Favre in the off-season. Monday morning in Miami, Driver was interviewed by Chicago radio station WSCR-AM (670) and he was much less controversial about the topic. "I hope he comes back," Driver said, referring to Favre. "I think he still loves it." Driver said he wanted Favre to return because he wouldn't have to face any learning curve, which would be required with another quarterback....
Mike Vandermause: My guess is Favre will return in 07. I don't think he would decide on the 08 season until after this coming season.
Sydney Speaks! Where do you fit? By Harry Sydney Scout.com Harry Sydney doesn't hesitate to separate the Brett Favre apologists from the realists in his column today. Where do you fit in?Comment
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Be careful when praying that you don't mistake a jockstrap for a rosary....Who Knows? The Shadow knows!Comment
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Originally posted by GrnBay007Originally posted by The Shadow
ECHO?? DEJA VU??
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FAVRE TO DECIDE SOON.....
Originally posted by FavreChild
TOP HAT'S NOTE: DECISION COMING...SUPER BOWL...TWO WEEKS? EITHER WAY, IN 30 DAYS, A LONGEST CASE SCENARIO.
http://www.packerchatters.com/op-ed/view.php?id=325 by J.A. Packerchatters.com
Around the League. JA says, "I am not sure how true this is, but I was told Brett Favre could have his decision made by the weeks end, and a press conference to announce it may be held by mid-next week...."
Why Brett's Return is a Good Deal for the Pack by C. D. Angeli Packerchatters.com
As we enter what seems to be Episode Six of the media-created furor that is Favre Wars: The Phantom Retirement, most of us have accepted that Favre's decision, for yea or for nay, should be coming within the next week or two. With that clearly in mind, I would like to state for the record that I believe the Packers are a better team in 2007 with Brett Favre at the helm. Patronize me....?
Family matters Favre to base decision on personal issues, not football By TOM SILVERSTEIN JSOnline.com
Miami - Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre reached out to coach Mike McCarthy, but did not provide an answer as to whether he will come back next season. Favre has been home in Hattiesburg, Miss., since the 2006 season ended, tending to his usual chores and getting his mind off football. Favre was at his daughter Brittany's basketball game last week when he told a local reporter he intended to touch base with McCarthy. After some phone tag, the two finally connected a couple of days ago. "He was power-washing the driveway when I talked to him," McCarthy said Tuesday. There has been a lot of speculation and rumor regarding Favre's future, and some are under the assumption he will make a decision this week or next on whether to return. But McCarthy said nothing Favre said led him to think a decision was imminent and, as far as he's concerned, that's not a problem. He understands that Favre has some things to think through. "It was a very good talk," McCarthy said, choosing not to identify exactly when they spoke. "It always is. I've never felt any of our talks were (not fruitful). Even all through last year. I know from the outside people were frustrated with the waiting, but the man has played a long time and it's a process he has to go through. And he's going through it again. "There's nothing wrong with talking through it." Asked if he thought his discussions with Favre would help the quarterback sort things out, McCarthy said maybe. But his intent isn't to talk him into something he doesn't want to do. "I'm not going to sit there and make his mind up for him," McCarthy said. "By no means, is that my decision. He and (wife) Deanna have to make it." What McCarthy did gather from his conversation with Favre is that his decision will come down to personal and family matters. Both McCarthy and Thompson told Favre he still has what it takes to be an effective quarterback and it appears Favre agrees. There have been some whispers that Favre would like to see the offense upgraded and, perhaps, even have the Packers trade for disgruntled Oakland receiver Randy Moss. But McCarthy said the status of the team wasn't on Favre's mind. "It really has nothing to do with the team," McCarthy said. "I think Brett's questions last year were with regards to so many new things: new coach, new staff, (new) terminology, new players. The issue of whether to play, from my understanding, really doesn't have anything to do with the team." During the season, Favre said spending more time with his family would weigh on his mind when making a decision whether to come back. Brittany has stayed in Hattiesburg year-round so she didn't have to change high schools while the rest of the family lived in Green Bay during the season. McCarthy said he didn't come away with an opinion on which way Favre was leaning, but understands why many people think he will come back. In the regular-season finale against the Chicago Bears, the eventual NFC champion, Favre played well, completing 21 of 42 passes for 285 yards with a touchdown and an interception. "I can see why everybody says he's going to play because of all the positives,"McCarthy said. "There's no question that (he can play). And the most important thing is that he doesn't question that, either. I think everyone is on the same page as to whether he can play." That certainly seemed to be the case at Super Bowl XLI media day at Dolphins Stadium. Numerous coaches and current and former players were asked whether they thought Favre should continue to play and almost to a man they said yes. No one said they thought Favre was washed up. "All I know is that he's a guy that can still perform," said Jim Caldwell, Indianapolis Colts assistant head coach/quarterbacks. "He's one of the great quarterbacks in this league. He's an incredible leader. Players gravitate toward him and around him. All of us within this game have a great amount of respect for that guy." Thompson, meanwhile, said he did not visit Favre during his trip last week to Mobile, Ala., for the Senior Bowl because he did not want to push the quarterback for an answer too quickly. He said there was a timeframe in which he would like a decision but he wouldn't say whether it had begun. "I purposely left him alone for a couple weeks to give him time," Thompson said. "Mike has had some conversations with him the last several days and I'm sure I'll be in touch with him pretty soon. I think everybody understands where we are. Brett was the first one to say he'd like to make a decision early." Presumably, Thompson could wait as late as the end of February, given that free agency begins March 2. But it would be a problem if the decision came after that because if Favre retires, the Packers are going to want to pursue a veteran to compete with 2005 first-round pick Aaron Rodgers, who still has much to prove before being given the starting job. "Everyone understands the timeframe we're dealing with, but we haven't put a timeline on it," McCarthy said. "Obviously, we just don't want to get into what we got into last year.
Favre's decision expected soon, McCarthy says Packersnews.com
Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy says he hopes to learn "in the next couple of weeks" whether quarterback Brett Favre will return for the 2007 season. McCarthy, speaking by phone from Austin, Texas, made his comments in an interview on Jim Rome's nationally syndicated radio show on Tuesday. "I talked to Brett on Saturday and ultimately it's a decision Brett and (his wife) Deanna are working through, and we hope to know here in the next couple of weeks," McCarthy told Rome....
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The best thing from the above article is that McCarthy thinks it will come down to Brett making a family decision. In the past, whether it was about playing another year, or playing the day after his father died, Brett's family has always encouraged him to play. If they hadn't Brett would have retired a couple of years ago.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard CohenComment
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If it meant the difference between my spouse being home all day or out working and making 11 million dollars, i'd encourage him to play, tooOriginally posted by Joemailman
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Seriously though, while I know it's got to be difficult not having your family together (Brit staying in MS for her HS years for example). It also has to be alot of fun for the family to attend the games as well. Like Brett said, it's not the games that he doesn't love, it's the practices and long hours spent preparing for them.
IMO, the guy is going to play until he physically can't anymore. I had some bad vibes after the Chicago game, but I am glad to see him taking some time away from football instead of making a bad decision, like retiring
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Nothing interesting here, but this was in todays Press Gazette....
Favre's decision expected soon, Packers coach says
Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy says he hopes to learn "in the next couple of weeks" whether quarterback Brett Favre will return for the 2007 season.
McCarthy, in Miami for the Super Bowl, made his comments in an interview on Jim Rome's nationally syndicated radio show.
For the complete story, go to www.PackersNews.com.Comment
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He's as good as back. Coincidentally, so is/are the Pack.Comment
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FAVRE TO RETURN AS....
Favre to return as Bergstrom pitchman Gannett Newspapers
Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre is coming back — at least as pitchman for Bergstrom Automotive. John Bergstrom, chairman and chief executive officer of Bergstrom Corp., said today that Favre, a three-time NFL most valuable player, agreed on Friday to serve as “our spokesperson for another year.†“We just renewed our contract,†Bergstrom said. “I was a little hesitant wondering what he would say and he said, ‘I’m in there. I’ll be there.’†Asked if the agreement meant Favre, who is contemplating retirement, might return to the playing field, Bergstrom chuckled and said, “I’m not saying that.†The largest automotive dealer in Wisconsin has benefited from its relationship with the quarterback who owns several NFL all-time passing records and is closing in on a few others. “We started this since Brett came to town,†said Bergstrom. “He’s been our spokesman since he signed with the Packers. We got lucky. We didn’t know who he was or what we were going to have and he’s stayed loyal to us all through this thing. He just does a great job. He’s been incredibly loyal to us and our people love him,†Bergstrom said. “He’s a real guy, drives a pickup truck.â€Comment
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SHOULD FAVRE STAY OR GO??/POLL/PROS & CONS VIEWS
Brett Favre: stay or go?
Stay (86.9%)
Go (13.1%)
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Favre should stay. Too much left in his arm to hang up cleats now. by Silverstein JSOnline.com
Brett Favre has defied convention since he joined the Green Bay Packers 15 years ago this month, traipsing through the snow in a T-shirt and flip-flops or firing touchdown passes recoiling back from the throw. As Favre lies low in Mississippi mulling his decision to play in 2007, most football people at Super Bowl XLI can't imagine him walking away without challenging the actuarial rates for aging quarterbacks.
"I know he's kind of wavering a little bit," said Ron Rivera, defensive coordinator of the Chicago Bears. "And believe me, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if he retired. But I love him in the game. I think he's a tremendous part of the game." Rivera and two members of his staff, defensive line coach Don Johnson and linebackers coach Bob Babich, unanimously agreed that Favre could and should play well in '07, which would be his 17th season. We have absolutely no doubt in our mind that if he were to play next year we'd be concerned," Babich said. "I don't know how his body feels and all that, but Brett Favre is a playmaker. "Still. To this day." Vonnie Holliday, Favre's teammate from 1998-'02 and now a defensive tackle for the Miami Dolphins, vividly recalls Favre's superb performance Oct. 22 in the Packers' 34-24 victory at Dolphin Stadium. "The guy probably can play forever," said Holliday, who is working the Super Bowl for a Miami television station. "If he really wanted to he could. He could be one of those 20-year quarterbacks. Against us he was the Brett Favre that I remember running around with that big boyish grin on his face." In other words, he should stay. For the second season in a row Favre performed considerably better early in the season than he did later on. His passer rating of 81.3 in the first nine games was followed by 61.0 in the last seven. Nevertheless, the final game often leaves more of an impression than it should, and Favre was very good in a 26-7 victory over the uninspired Bears Dec. 31 at Soldier Field. "Obviously, we saw it first hand in the last game," Bears general manager Jerry Angelo said. "Just remarkable. It's remarkable in terms of the things he still can do." Although Favre posted what easily was the lowest completion mark (56%) of his career, there appears to be no debate about his arm strength. "He can still throw the ball as well as most of the quarterbacks in the league," said Clyde Powers, director of pro personnel for the Indianapolis Colts. "I think it's his decision on just what he thinks the team is going to do." On Wednesday, Angelo said it was his opinion that 60% of the evaluation process for quarterbacks is based on intangibles, a view that he said was shared by former Dallas coach Bill Parcells. But it was the inability to throw the ball that drove Hall of Famers such as Bart Starr, Bob Griese and Terry Bradshaw from the game. Favre, whose intangibles always have been off the charts, has never had arm problems. "I don't think a lot of people understand that as long as he's making the throws he can still compete," Rivera said. "And he's still making the throws. I'm not sure that he should (retire) because he's still making the plays." Brian Griese, the Bears' backup quarterback, and Colts defensive line coach John Teerlinck both indicated that Favre still belonged among the top 10 or 12 quarterbacks in the league. Another player, Bears cornerback Charles Tillman, said that if Favre's family gives him the go-ahead he shouldn't look back. Jamie Dukes, an NFL Network analyst who was Favre's starting center for about half of the '94 season, was adamant about Favre being able to play well for three or four more seasons. "It's silly," said Dukes. "If they put the guys in front of him to protect him and get him a wide receiver, he'll be fine." But Favre has never wanted to be just "fine." There are a host of significant records within Favre's reach but all he seems to care about is remaining a competitive player on a competitive team. "Play as long as you can," CBS analyst Phil Simms said earlier this week. "When you think your career is over, try to get one more year out of it. You want to try to give yourself as many memories, as many thoughts to think about when you get done. "(Favre) played very well at the end of the year, basically for the whole year. He proved to everybody he could guide a team that was not looked upon to be great and still got it done."
Favre should go. Time to walk away with playoffs a mere illusion. by Silverstein JSOnline.com
Miami - You can tell Brett Favre is deep into the decision-making process. Earlier this week, he spoke at length with Green Bay coach Mike McCarthy about his future. On Wednesday, he spoke with former Packers quarterbacks coach Steve Mariucci about the same subject. "I can't tell you what he said," said Mariucci, who is at Super Bowl XLI as an analyst for the NFL Network. "That would be betraying his confidence. But he hasn't made a decision yet." Ask 100 people whether they think the 37-year-old Favre can still play football and 99 of them will say yes. The 100th would be a split-decision. Mariucci clearly is in the "Aye" group when it comes to those in favor of Favre continuing, as was every single person interviewed for this story. But there is much more to the quarterback's decision whether to play on than just his ability to perform at a high level. There is the capability of the team to compete for the Super Bowl, the potential for a debilitating injury, the mental toll of 22 weeks of practice and meetings, the possibility of tarnishing his legacy and the difficulty of spending more time away from his wife and children. "He is giving this all serious thought," Mariucci said. "He's doing his thing to determine football, family, future, how it all fits together right now. It's a commitment. He's going to really heavily consider his family in this next year. And he should, his daughter (Brittany) is going off to college and his little one (Breleigh) is still a kid. There's some thinking he has to do." As much as his fans would like him to come back, Favre has plenty of reasons to call it a career, not the least of which is that he has already accomplished what every NFL quarterback wants more than anything: a Super Bowl championship. The only player to win three Most Valuable Player awards in a row, Favre can leave the game now guaranteed of being a first-ballot Hall of Fame selection as well. What isn't guaranteed is an 11th post-season. The Packers finished 8-8 in 2006, winning their final four games, but they only beat one team with a winning record all season, and that was over a Chicago Bears team that had already clinched home-field advantage in the playoffs. "You know what, I think the thing he really truly has to ask himself is, 'How close are we really? Can we compete with the upper echelon teams?' " said former NFL tight end Shannon Sharpe, now a studio analyst for CBS. "You look at the Bears, they're a young football team. You look at the Cowboys, they're a young football team. You look at Seattle, you look at some of the other teams, New Orleans, they're a very, very young football team. " 'Are we in that class? Can we compete week in and week out?' If he answers yes, he should come back and if he answers no he should leave." The fear some people have of Favre coming back for another season is that he'll be stuck playing on another losing team. Until the 4-12 campaign in 2005, he had never played for a team with a losing record. What most people remember about Favre are all the glorious moments he had in 15 seasons as the Packers' starting quarterback. As he considers whether to come back and play another season, he could easily say to himself, 'Why bother? I have more to lose than I have to gain.' He would fall short of the Holy Grail of passing records, Dan Marino's all-time mark of 420 touchdowns, but so what? His all-time mark of 236 consecutive regular-season starts will last a lot longer than the touchdown record. "The only thing I fear about Brett playing is that I don't want the team to do badly," said former Denver linebacker Tom Jackson, currently a studio analyst for ESPN. "I don't want to watch 3-13 because I don't want that (to be my) memory of the end of Brett's career because I know how great a player he is." There are other factors. While most agree he can still perform at a high level, some aren't sure whether he can be the quarterback he once was. And if the mental toll catches up to him, the combination of a physical and mental slide could make for a disastrous season. What happens if in the middle of the season, he hits the wall mentally? He has been playing football non-stop since he was a kid and hasn't always had time to stop and smell the roses. As mentally tough as he is, the meetings, the practices, the film study and the off-the-field obligations add up as the years go by. Another factor for Favre is whether his return to what was the youngest roster in the NFL is a good fit for him. All of the veteran teammates who were friends or golfing and hunting partners - Frank Winters, Doug Pederson, Craig Nall, Ryan Longwell among them - are gone. The only player close to him in age is long snapper Rob Davis, who turned 38 in December. Only 18 of the 79 players on the current roster were more than 12 years old when Favre became the starting quarterback for the Packers. "There's a point where you become frustrated because he's a man now playing basically with kids," said Favre's former teammate, John Jurkovic. "I think the camaraderie he had with those guys he had before is the kind of camaraderie he's going to have to develop with these guys. There's no reason why he shouldn't be able to do it, but he doesn't have a ton in common with these guys except for the fact that he plays football. "I don't know if he's going to invite these guys down to go hunting...."Comment
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