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  • #16
    Originally posted by prsnfoto
    Originally posted by red
    man, thats the first time i've seen every teams free money

    with the cap going up it looks like everyones got a ton of room

    look for the bidding to be insane. i wouldn't expect us to get much

    and chicago should have more then enough room to keep briggs
    Those numbers include the increase red so everyone up to Dallas is sitting pretty good the Bears also have most of their good young team already locked up so they could give Briggs the house, but that may cause decent in the ranks right now only Urlacher makes big money the rest of the talented young guys are pretty equal and pretty cheap. Teams 26 and down don't even have enough to sign their draft picks yet somehow we will hear how the Redskins sign three huge free agents and have cap room for their rookies.
    The Pack should have 20 mil to blow after the rookies and Jenkins,Williams, and maybe even Green, if Brett doesn't come back and they dump KGB and Ferguson thats another 18.5 million let the spending begin.
    It looks like a lot of teams are going to have about 20 mil to blow. I think the bidding will get crazy and TT will - wisely - refrain from throwing money around like it's monopoly money.

    Look at the flippin' Redskins. They're about twenty bucks under the cap and have zero to show for it. Or did they go one and out in the playoffs last year or the year before? Sucks to be them!
    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

    KYPack

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    • #17
      I heard John Clayton talking about this the other day, and he said Green Bay and San Fran are the only 2 teams that aren't going very "effected" by roster bonuses and so on like other teams. I could see a lot of those numbers change by March 1.
      "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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      • #18
        Free agency is going to be interesting this offseason. A lot of teams have a lot of money, yet the cupboard is pretty bare. Other than Briggs, Clements, Freeney, and Samuel there's not a lot to get excited about and I fully expect Briggs and Freeney to stay where they are.
        </delurk>

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BooHoo
          Do we really think we will sign anybody this off season?
          I think we need to keep our expectations of signing guys like Taco Wallace, Carlton Brewster, and Billy Cundiff.

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          • #20
            That's okay by me. As someone said earlier, there's not much quality that's going to be out there. And there's no sense in signing someone for big bucks just to say you signed someone.
            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

            KYPack

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Joemailman
              Originally posted by red
              Originally posted by prsnfoto

              Those numbers include the increase red so everyone up to Dallas is sitting pretty good the Bears also have most of their good young team already locked up so they could give Briggs the house, but that may cause decent in the ranks right now only Urlacher makes big money the rest of the talented young guys are pretty equal and pretty cheap. Teams 26 and down don't even have enough to sign their draft picks yet somehow we will hear how the Redskins sign three huge free agents and have cap room for their rookies.
              The Pack should have 20 mil to blow after the rookies and Jenkins,Williams, and maybe even Green, if Brett doesn't come back and they dump KGB and Ferguson thats another 18.5 million let the spending begin.
              i don't have the numbers in front of me, but thats way off

              patler should be a along soon to clear this up

              edit: actually, after looking at the numbers myself, we would gain about that much. you were right, my bad
              I don't think we would gain that much. Favre still has 2.2 mil of his signing bonus left, so we would gain about 8-9 mil if he retires. IF KGB is cut before June 1, 4.7 mil of his signing bonus comes due, so we would gain about 1.8 mil. If Fergy is cut before June 1, 1.4 mil left on his signing bonus comes due, which I believe is his base salary, so we would gain nothing.

              If Favre retires and KGB and Fergy are cut before June 1, I figure we pick up 10-11 in cap space. IF KGB and Fergy are cut after June 1, and Favre retires, I figure we pick up 14-15 mil. I'm sure Patler will shoot all this down, but that's his job.
              Somehow, over the past season, the information on Packer bonuses has become very inconsistent. Assuming the Packers made the cuts and Favre retires before June 1, the best that I can piece together is this:

              Favre - approximately $10 million increased salary cap room
              KGB - 1.8 million increase
              Ferguson - $1.8 million

              Total available cap increase about $13.6 million. However, Rodgers gets an automatic salary increase of something like $3 million if he becomes the starter, and you have to bring in another QB probably at around $1 million, so the net effect is about $10 million more in cap space to play with.

              If KGB and Ferguson are cut after June 1, the increase in available cap for 2007 would be about $3.8 million more, which then would be charged against the 2008 cap.

              These are just ballpark figures, and especially with Favre's are just my best guess. Normally reliable sources have the cap charge if he retires varying from about $800,000 to about $2.2 million.

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              • #22
                Might it be more prudent to hold off signing anybody for big bucks during free agency. I seem to recall that 2008 is a pretty decent free agent crop, but I can't find a list anywhere. I think Troy Polamalu, Larry Johnson (though he'll likely be signed this offseason), Jeremy Shockey and some others are free agents in '08.
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                • #23
                  With that much cap space, the Packers should get a deal done to extend Harris' and Cullen Jenkins' contracts.

                  KGB had a down year and has most always been a liability on running plays. Fergy could be gone today, he has never really panned out (still bitter about passing up Chambers )

                  The current free agent pool is thin at best. Briggs will be re-signed. Samuel will either be franchised and/or re-signed for big bucks.
                  -digital dean

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                  • #24
                    Minnesota will have about 23 million, I found this......

                    Show Me the Money

                    By Viking Update Staff

                    Posted Jan 26, 2007

                    The free agent season is more than a month away, but with 19 teams more than $21 million under the salary cap, there are going to be a ton of mega-buck deals signed once the flag drops and free agency begins in earnest.

                    Last year at this time, there was panic sweeping the NFL. Without a collective bargaining agreement extension in place, it was feared that 2007 would be an uncapped year and the league would turn into the wild, wild West – with teams able to spend whatever they chose and labor peace being put in severe jeopardy.

                    After delaying free agency twice, a deal was struck that assured there wouldn’t be a work stoppage, but it provided much more money for teams to work with under the salary cap – so much so that, with a month to go before the official start of free agency, 19 of the league’s 32 teams have more than $21 million in available salary cap space.

                    While the numbers below will be subject to change as players are signed, released and bonuses kick in, it looks to be an active free agent season. According to a report in the St. Petersburg Times, the Vikings are estimated to be more than $32 million under the salary cap. However, after the signings of linebacker E.J. Henderson and defensive tackle Kevin Williams in December, it is believed that number shrank to just over $23 million. Either way, they have the money under the cap to compete for whatever top players make it to market on March 2 if they choose. But they will have plenty of competition.

                    Here are the team-by-team salary cap totals, according to the report in the St. Petersburg Times. (In most other reports, the Vikings are thought to about $23 million under




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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Patler
                      Originally posted by Joemailman
                      Originally posted by red
                      Originally posted by prsnfoto

                      Those numbers include the increase red so everyone up to Dallas is sitting pretty good the Bears also have most of their good young team already locked up so they could give Briggs the house, but that may cause decent in the ranks right now only Urlacher makes big money the rest of the talented young guys are pretty equal and pretty cheap. Teams 26 and down don't even have enough to sign their draft picks yet somehow we will hear how the Redskins sign three huge free agents and have cap room for their rookies.
                      The Pack should have 20 mil to blow after the rookies and Jenkins,Williams, and maybe even Green, if Brett doesn't come back and they dump KGB and Ferguson thats another 18.5 million let the spending begin.
                      i don't have the numbers in front of me, but thats way off

                      patler should be a along soon to clear this up

                      edit: actually, after looking at the numbers myself, we would gain about that much. you were right, my bad
                      I don't think we would gain that much. Favre still has 2.2 mil of his signing bonus left, so we would gain about 8-9 mil if he retires. IF KGB is cut before June 1, 4.7 mil of his signing bonus comes due, so we would gain about 1.8 mil. If Fergy is cut before June 1, 1.4 mil left on his signing bonus comes due, which I believe is his base salary, so we would gain nothing.

                      If Favre retires and KGB and Fergy are cut before June 1, I figure we pick up 10-11 in cap space. IF KGB and Fergy are cut after June 1, and Favre retires, I figure we pick up 14-15 mil. I'm sure Patler will shoot all this down, but that's his job.
                      Somehow, over the past season, the information on Packer bonuses has become very inconsistent. Assuming the Packers made the cuts and Favre retires before June 1, the best that I can piece together is this:

                      Favre - approximately $10 million increased salary cap room
                      KGB - 1.8 million increase
                      Ferguson - $1.8 million

                      Total available cap increase about $13.6 million. However, Rodgers gets an automatic salary increase of something like $3 million if he becomes the starter, and you have to bring in another QB probably at around $1 million, so the net effect is about $10 million more in cap space to play with.

                      If KGB and Ferguson are cut after June 1, the increase in available cap for 2007 would be about $3.8 million more, which then would be charged against the 2008 cap.

                      These are just ballpark figures, and especially with Favre's are just my best guess. Normally reliable sources have the cap charge if he retires varying from about $800,000 to about $2.2 million.
                      i thought that 18 million looked a little big. but when i went to the old packers salary cap page, the numbers were right. and i think we're all using the same source there

                      for some reason i think the numbers have changed, i just thought it was because we got another year of PRSB under our belts

                      10 or 11 million is still a nice bit of money if all 3 go

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                      • #26
                        In all honesty, I do not expect Favre to retire.

                        I doubt the Packers will cut KGB. I think they will want to see how he can produce in a role as a situational player again. For better or worse, he is still the #3 DE on the roster. He has always stayed healthy, too, so that isn't a concern.

                        Unless the Packers draft and/or sign at least 3 very promising receivers, I expect Ferguson will be around for training camp too. Ferguson is more iffy than KGB, simply because of his injury history. GB might simply give up on him kind of like they did with Diggs last year..

                        They may end up paying KGB and Ferguson more than they would like too, but they really have no one to replace either one as players, especially KGB. For that reason I expect to see both at training camp this summer.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Patler
                          They may end up paying KGB and Ferguson more than they would like too, but they really have no one to replace either one as players, especially KGB. For that reason I expect to see both at training camp this summer.
                          unfortunately true. still tho, both are hard workers. its not like they arent performing cos they are lazy asses. too bad things just dont work out for some players. i think KGB will be alright in his new role, if not better. but i dont have a lot of hope for ferguson. the past 3-4 seasons have been "this is my breakout year" situations and each time he hasnt stepped up. he has the physical tools, he just cant seem to translate his talents onto the field. but as patler said, he will probably be around (at least for training camp) just because there arent clear candidates who have separated themselves to fill the WR positions. martin and holiday all have shown flashes, but so has ferguson. all of these guys are only servicable, not dependable, at this point, and they havent shown to be consistent contributors. hopefully, holiday martin and jenning all continue to develop. the management has been awfully patient with ferguson though.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Patler
                            In all honesty, I do not expect Favre to retire.

                            I doubt the Packers will cut KGB. I think they will want to see how he can produce in a role as a situational player again. For better or worse, he is still the #3 DE on the roster. He has always stayed healthy, too, so that isn't a concern.

                            Unless the Packers draft and/or sign at least 3 very promising receivers, I expect Ferguson will be around for training camp too. Ferguson is more iffy than KGB, simply because of his injury history. GB might simply give up on him kind of like they did with Diggs last year..

                            They may end up paying KGB and Ferguson more than they would like too, but they really have no one to replace either one as players, especially KGB. For that reason I expect to see both at training camp this summer.
                            I can't blame KGB for the fact they just gave him too much money, but the fact Ferguson has managed not only to stay on this team but get a new contract during this time speaks volumes why we have stunk and if he remains on the rooster there is little hope in the future. Lets be honest here he belongs with a list of former Packers in production Carroll,Thomas,M. Anderson,J. Reynolds, odds are some of them probably would have been more productive if given 5 years to prove anything yet Robert remains.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by prsnfoto
                              Originally posted by Patler
                              In all honesty, I do not expect Favre to retire.

                              I doubt the Packers will cut KGB. I think they will want to see how he can produce in a role as a situational player again. For better or worse, he is still the #3 DE on the roster. He has always stayed healthy, too, so that isn't a concern.

                              Unless the Packers draft and/or sign at least 3 very promising receivers, I expect Ferguson will be around for training camp too. Ferguson is more iffy than KGB, simply because of his injury history. GB might simply give up on him kind of like they did with Diggs last year..

                              They may end up paying KGB and Ferguson more than they would like too, but they really have no one to replace either one as players, especially KGB. For that reason I expect to see both at training camp this summer.
                              I can't blame KGB for the fact they just gave him too much money, but the fact Ferguson has managed not only to stay on this team but get a new contract during this time speaks volumes why we have stunk and if he remains on the rooster there is little hope in the future. Lets be honest here he belongs with a list of former Packers in production Carroll,Thomas,M. Anderson,J. Reynolds, odds are some of them probably would have been more productive if given 5 years to prove anything yet Robert remains.
                              Ferguson was having a decent year and was the leader on kick coverage units the year he received an extension. He looked like he would develop into a decent receiver at the time. Ever since then he hasn't been able to stay healthy, and has regressed as a receiver.

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                              • #30
                                I think you will see the money spent but in a "conservative" fashion.

                                Jenkins likely will get big deal with roster bonus or high pay this year but reducing the number in later years. I estimate 5-6 million this season. Long term it is great for everyone.

                                Green will, I expect, have a one year deal with incentives. Budget about 3 million. No one else will pay that much.

                                Kendrick Allen - In this environment a guy like Allen can make a lot. 1.2-1.5? million.

                                Donald Lee should be re-signed to about 800K and Rob Davis though he will be paid 900K will count much less.

                                Cole, Herron, Humphrey, Holliday, will be signed for the minimum. They have no choice. About 1.5 million.

                                Then the draft picks will require about 5 million to sign.

                                That still leaves about 10 million in cap room. Assume 5 million later in the year to extend Barnett, that still leaves about 5 million in cap room that can be used in cutting Barry and still sign 2-3 moderate free agents like a KR, a replacement for Taylor, and perhaps a back up Center.

                                The cap room may seem like a lot but if spent on roster bonuses(hits cap only one season) instead of signing bonus(disbursed over the length of the contract) the money can be used up rather well and keep cap costs down in the future.

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